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Was this a Stevens 418 Junior Target model ?
Feb 6th, 2017 at 8:52am
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Trying to identify a Stevens can be frustrating as many of you know. I THINK this was a Stevens model 418 Junior Target. The upper tang has two holes for a sight. Barrel is 26". Firing pin strikes at nine o'clock. 
Sights are modern replacements, entire rifle refinished. Stevens receiver markings very faint or gone. Bore relined. Very accurate! 
Only problem is it doesn't eject rounds, shooter has to pull extracted casing. Minor hassle.

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Re: Was this a Stevens 418 Junior Target model ?
Reply #1 - Feb 6th, 2017 at 8:53am
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Re: Was this a Stevens 418 Junior Target model ?
Reply #2 - Feb 6th, 2017 at 10:16am
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The 9 o'clock firing pin was peculiar to the 417 and 418.  The 417 weighed over 10 lbs, but the 418 has a much lighter barrel and weighs between 6 and 7 lbs., according to my sources.
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Reply #3 - Feb 6th, 2017 at 11:32am
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mm1ut1 wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 8:52am:

Only problem is it doesn't eject rounds, shooter has to pull extracted casing.


Did you check the extractor to see if the little plunger that's supposed to eject the case is missing or stuck?
  
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Took it apart and found the extractor is a home made part. No provision for a plunger.
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 6th, 2017 at 1:15pm
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mm1ut1 wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 12:31pm:
Took it apart and found the extractor is a home made part. No provision for a plunger.


Wisener's makes those parts:

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Reply #6 - Feb 6th, 2017 at 3:32pm
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I have found that reassembling the action with that spring-loaded ejector in place is the very devil, and replaced mine with a normal extractor.   Maybe a previous owner had the same experience?
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 6th, 2017 at 4:47pm
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uscra112 wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 3:32pm:
I have found that reassembling the action with that spring-loaded ejector in place is the very devil...


But if it ain't broke, you ain't supposed to be tryin' to fix it!   
  
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Reply #8 - Feb 6th, 2017 at 7:00pm
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Needing four hands to do the job is definitely in my category of broke!    Grin
  
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Re: Was this a Stevens 418 Junior Target model ?
Reply #9 - Feb 6th, 2017 at 7:05pm
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No! The 418's were made on the favorite action & the 417's were made on an improved 44 action. One of those improvements was heigher side walls like the one you show. Yours is definetly an early 417 with the "S" lever.           ...MIKE...
  
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Re: Was this a Stevens 418 Junior Target model ?
Reply #10 - Feb 6th, 2017 at 8:46pm
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The 417's barrel was threaded in. The 418's were slip fit like the Favorites. They were the best of the 44's.
  
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Reply #11 - Feb 6th, 2017 at 8:55pm
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This has the slip on barrel.
  
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Re: Was this a Stevens 418 Junior Target model ?
Reply #12 - Feb 7th, 2017 at 1:04am
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If it is a slip-fit barrel, and is indeed on a Favorite size frame, it's probably not a good candidate for the .25-20 cartridge, IMHO.  Most I would do is move the firing pin so the original barrel can use .32 Colt centerfire, (a handload proposition) or the .32 S&W short, (may require reaming the chamber bigger).

I kinda thought that breechblock looked like a 1915 Favorite.
  
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Re: Was this a Stevens 418 Junior Target model ?
Reply #13 - Feb 7th, 2017 at 8:47am
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uscra112 wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 1:04am:
(may require reaming the chamber bigger).


I've never run into a 44 in 32 RF that wasn't chambered for the Long cartridge, in which case the chamber would only have to be enlarged the thickness of the brass to accept 32 S&W; a lot less trouble, it seems to me, than fussing with heel bullets for hard to find .32 Colt cases.
  
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Re: Was this a Stevens 418 Junior Target model ?
Reply #14 - Feb 7th, 2017 at 11:33am
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I have the idea that the O.P.'s rifle is built on a Favorite frame, not a 44.   

But I find that you are right that that .32 S&W Long is viable in that rifle.  I recently bought an early Favorite in .32 Rimfire, and it takes the Long rimfire cartridge. It also will take the .32 Colt cartridges I made up for my Bay State, with a shove.

Following that up I tried to get some idea of the pressure generated by the .32 Long Colt vs. the .32 S&W Long.  Reading in Barnes, they look much the same.  Which I thought the S&W was a good deal higher, but it ain't so.   

I'm using a bullet that drops from a Lyman 299153 mould at 87 grains in the Colt, as against the 80 grains of my .32 Rimfire cartridges.  Heavier bullets will not go, the ogive is fatter.
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