Sorry BP, they won't give me a copy...

You will have to wait just like every one else.

Grisen

svartkruttgris#369 wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 9:54pm:

Thanks Grisen.

If you have a minute, look up "presidential memoranda". In a nutshell, some folks like to count executive orders because there is a recording requirement. It's not too tough to figure out that most of the president's actions, including gun right restrictions, have been through the memoranda process. He's also used this process to make major changes to ocare and immigration law, in secrecy, not by executive order. No wonder you can't get the wording for the new gun control plans.

I suspect they know that compliance will be low, but don't really care. Chances are there'll be the opportunity to make examples out of a few unlucky folks, and if there's any grandfather clause, it'll go away as folks die off and it will be a different future.

What I have been hearing on the radio today indicates he wants to re define who in in the business of selling guns. My guess is that ANYONE who sells a gun will be considered to be in the business of selling guns. All sales will have to go through an FFL. This will add to the cost of buying and selling guns. It will also have little or no effect on the "gun violence". More executive orders will follow including "assault rifles", all semi automatic guns, with "sniper" rifles. If they eventually succeed in getting all guns out of the hands of private citizens it won't end the gun violence because criminals will still have guns and people will find other ways to commit violence on people. Lets hope congress has the stones to stop him from making law. That's not in his job description.

KMOX in St. Louis. National news. Been all over. Don't know about you but I took Civics in high school. There is a Legislative, Judicial , and Executive Branch of government for a reason and their duty's are not interchangeable. The President can't make law. Try reading the constitution. Obama is not the first president to over step his authority.

slumlord44 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 1:15am:


Hi Slumlord44!

I asked, did not presume, although I did point out some possible choices that I hear highly touted by right-wingers. Thank you for correction.

Grisen

Re your previous post about High School Civics class. One thing I keep learning about such classes is that they are poor prep for the messy real world, especially in recent decades. Apparent joker is the incessant strife between 3 branches of Govt, as well as incessant attempts by both political parties to control what each branch actually does.

We probably diverge on our opinions of long term value of our High School education. Mine was not worth much. That of my children was much better, but still quite lacking. Hope you and yours fared much better.

Grisen

PS : Waited too long to find broadcast re Obama's intentions still available. Common problem with stuff on TV. Thanks for link -- will perhaps try again in coming week. 

Hi Slumlord44!

Thanks for your brief history! Her is mine.

I left HS with diploma in 1967, spent summer looking for job -- none -- went to work for local banker doing what his main farmhand did before he needed major surgery. Banked enough $$$ to pay for 1 year in-state college or take off on extended foreign travel -- chose college, nearly flunked out 1st semester, got full tuition scholarship after 2nd -- graduated in 4,0 years. Still no decent jobs, so graduate school. THEN I started finding good jobs, each lasting almost precisely 3,5 years. 35 years later a sequence of 3 "Jobs from Hell" put end of my desire to ever again work for anyone else. Good Decision.

I have seen those "illiterate" college grads -- "we" never hired them. Their English was horrible!! My jobs often entailed educated competence in 2-3 languages. Even immigrant lab techs held those "illiterate college grads" in contempt -- their 2nd or 3rd language, English typically, command was better. 

Sad!! And now we see reporting in major USA newspapers about how the "middle-aged white males" are dying off at alarming rate -- somehow it all fits -- sad and worse.

Grisen

svartkruttgris#369 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 6:59pm:

Sorry Grisen, I'm not Don here. 

One take on it might be that your response reads a bit like 'parroting' of the other party that doesn't get to run Congress at this time. This law may not be so obscure. Don't upper level state department folks have to sign binding agreements stating that they understand this law before starting a position or when resigning from service?

It's possible that a point might be that some high level officials do not face questions or consequences about their activities. How come?