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Reply #30 - Jun 28th, 2015 at 1:30pm
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I am not an expert by any means so take my input with a grain or two, maybe even a shaker full of salt.  I have a jar of barrel anti-seize compound I bought at Sinclair when changing barrels on my 6ppc which I did several times a month for several years.  It is called Tru-Gard and is an anti galling thread protector but does not give the ingredients.  It looks somewhat like teflon paste with more additives.  We torqued our barrels pretty good and this compound made changing back to a practice barrel easy.  I have to believe somebody with the experience of J Louis that teflon tape might have worked just as well but I never saw it used in the centerfire BR game in my brief experience.  Tape would have been less messy as I always cleaned my chamber lugs after using the paste to make sure any surplus was removed before shooting.  Tom
  
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Reply #31 - Jun 28th, 2015 at 2:58pm
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Tom,
Is it black like regular moly based anti-seize?
  

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Reply #32 - Jun 29th, 2015 at 12:13am
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No it is whitish blue like teflon with some blue ingredient added.  It states for stainless steel barrels to prevent galling of the threads.
  
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Reply #33 - Jun 29th, 2015 at 2:50pm
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Anti-seize for stainless generally contains no moly, just very fine particles of graphite, nickel & aluminum in a lithium grease.  Teflon would not be of much value since it decomposes at temperatures of about 600F.  Not saying that a compound with Teflon doesn't exist, but it would be of limited application, I would think.   


  

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Reply #34 - Jun 30th, 2015 at 12:54am
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I would hate to get my gun up to 600 degrees.
I have Teflon pads on my rifling machine ways and sine bar. That way I can use structural steel instead of going with something that has been hardened and polished. Has not given me any trouble in 16 years.
  

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Reply #35 - Jun 30th, 2015 at 4:26am
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Me either.  (Although we read about machine gun barrels being fired until they glow.)  But I'm assuming that most applications must be those where high heat is present, like exhaust manifold fasteners and spark plugs and furnace parts, else why would the makers make such a point of advertising it?  Not that I don't use it liberally on lug nuts and everything else under the car that might rust.  Is there a food grade anti seize, I wonder?

BTW I must have laid down square yards of Turcite in my early career in machine tools. Wonderful stuff.  Did you build your own machine, or rebuild one, John?  

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Reply #36 - Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:10am
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BTW I must have laid down square yards of Turcite in my early career in machine tools. Wonderful stuff.  Did you build your own machine, or rebuild one, John?   

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Built it from scratch with an idea in my head, no plans. some of the parts I had sitting around for years waiting to be put to good use. When I got fired from my job I put everything together and it got me started in business. I didn't have a rack and pinion for the sine bar so I used roller chain and sprocket. The spindle that holds the barrel is made from a 4X4 front axle housing. It's all mechanical with automatic indexing. Reverse on the carriage is accomplished with a snowmobile boggy wheel. It was originally set up to run the carriage back and forth automatically but the cutter adjustment is still by hand so I took that feature off. Takes about 1/2 hour to cut rifle a barrel. It will cut 2,3,4,5,6 and 8 groove but I have never done 2 or 3. The 5 groove was the last added for doing early 1873 Winchester barrels.
  

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Reply #37 - Jun 30th, 2015 at 12:12pm
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Fantastic, John.   LOVE the idea of the axle housing for a headstock.

Have you posted any pictures?

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