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1885 Winchester Triggers, Hammer & Levers
Sep 7th, 2014 at 4:15pm
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I was asked by a member about sears for a single set trigger and thought I would take some pictures and post them with what knowledge I have.  It may help somebody when buying parts.  Bob

This first picture shows the difference between a standard trigger and one machined for the trigger hook (ribbed).  The ribbed trigger has a hole in it for a spring and there is also a hook or catch that is needed to make the single set trigger functional.  The ribbing on the trigger is not necessary.  The knock-off springs correlate with the types of triggers.  Notice the difference in the curve and thickness of the knock-off springs.
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Reply #1 - Sep 7th, 2014 at 4:35pm
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These pictures show the sear needed for a Single Set Trigger (SST)  Notice the small groove cut in the face of the sear so that it will clear the fly.
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 7th, 2014 at 4:43pm
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This is the difference between the sear spring needed for the SST and the standard trigger.  Notice that the top one needs to be thinner so as to balance the force of the knock off spring.
  
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Reply #3 - Sep 7th, 2014 at 4:43pm
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This is the difference between the sear needed for the SST and the long tailed sear needed for the Close Coupled Double Set Trigger (CCDST) and the Helm Schuetzen triggers.
  
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Reply #4 - Sep 7th, 2014 at 4:45pm
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The long tailed sear is needed for the CCDST and the Helm Schuetzen trigger.
  
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Reply #5 - Sep 7th, 2014 at 4:47pm
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This is the hammer fitted with a fly.  All set triggers need this fly unless tricked out by grinding off the half cock notch.
  
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Reply #6 - Sep 7th, 2014 at 4:54pm
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These are 3 different levers that were most common for the High Wall.  I call them the standard S, the lazy S and the Helm Schuetzen.  They can go by different names besides those I gave them.  Notice how the front of the lever is ground as they were all from rifles equipped with leaf springs and not coil springs.
There were other lever shapes made by Winchester as well as by custom gunschmitts.
Please point out any mistakes I have made so that we can all learn from this post.  Good shooting.  Bob
  
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Reply #7 - Sep 7th, 2014 at 5:04pm
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Oustanding! thanks for your pics and info,Bob. Smiley
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 7th, 2014 at 7:16pm
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Very nicely done and it's refreshing to see some educational information for a change.

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Reply #9 - Sep 8th, 2014 at 9:17am
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Good information. Learned something. Thank you.
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Reply #10 - Sep 8th, 2014 at 9:23am
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Are these parts available or do they have to be made?  I have a 1885 and would like to modify it to a set trigger.

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Reply #11 - Sep 8th, 2014 at 2:49pm
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Currently, the only source of parts being produced that I know of is DZ Arms but they just show a few.  You could also try C. Sharps who makes the entire 1885. HW fans are hoping that Wyoming Armory is still around but nobody has heard from them for some time.  Bob
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 8th, 2014 at 6:09pm
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there are 4 levers for the 1885 the flat side lowalls use a liver that is a little thinner and a litttle shorter on the tang just in front of the trigger  ken
  
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Reply #13 - Sep 8th, 2014 at 7:40pm
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Bob,
Thank you for the information.  I will contact both of them.  My 1885 is a highwall.  It is not an original Winchester as it has not markings or serial number.  It also looks brand new and is barreled in .219 Donaldson Wasp.   

It belonged to the father of the guy I bought it from.  He said his father took it in trade for some old railroad memorabilia.  It has no sights or sight blocks and the stocks have been inleted but not finished.

I am busy doing some upgrades on my home and will tackle getting it finished over the winter.  I picked up a 20X Lyman Targetspot to use on it.

John
  
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Reply #14 - Sep 18th, 2014 at 6:31pm
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Thanks Bob 
Great photos and close ups of the parts,I learn and see things I havent seen before.
Wink
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