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Kurt_701 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: Missouri Joined: May 20^th, 2004	Making Dies for Hand lube pumps Oct 19^th, 2015 at 1:23pm	Print Post
	Can anyone offer any suggestions for turning inside tapers for bullet dies for a lube pump? Straight bullets are relative easy but taper bullets seem to be a problem. Thanks, Kurt

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JCHannum Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 435 Location: Toledo Joined: Aug 8^th, 2007	Re: Making Dies for Hand lube pumps Reply #1 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 2:11pm	Print Post
	Taper pin reamer? A couple will cover a wide range of calibers, taper is 1/4" per foot.

	Jim H.
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Seanmp Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 294 Location: Land O Lakes Joined: May 19^th, 2014	Re: Making Dies for Hand lube pumps Reply #2 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 3:47pm	Print Post
	It's relatively simple to do Measure the length of your compound rest Use an online trig calculator to to convert your bullet/taper length to equivalent compound rest length Mount an indicator in the lathe chuck indicating on the compound rest and make the adjustments to match the calculation. Turn the taper using the compound infeed .................................................. If your one of the few lucky enough to have a taper attachment on your lathe its the same process scaled up to the length of the taper attachment.

	Sean
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buchsenmacher Full Member Offline Posts: 205 Location: Adrian, MI Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: Making Dies for Hand lube pumps Reply #3 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 5:23pm	Print Post
	Another method is to bore the die in steps. Measure the diameter of each band and its location. Then bore a hole X diameter Y deep and another cut at XX diameter YY deep, etc. This also works out nice when the bullet isn't a straight taper, such as the one I did last night. .367 on the front three bands and then .370, .373, and the base .378. Also, I make my dies out of delrin that is a tight fit in the lube pump and then I don't need O-rings.

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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1615 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: Making Dies for Hand lube pumps Reply #4 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 5:51pm	Print Post
	Seanmp wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 3:47pm: It's relatively simple to do Measure the length of your compound rest Use an online trig calculator to to convert your bullet/taper length to equivalent compound rest length Mount an indicator in the lathe chuck indicating on the compound rest and make the adjustments to match the calculation. Turn the taper using the compound infeed .................................................. If your one of the few lucky enough to have a taper attachment on your lathe its the same process scaled up to the length of the taper attachment. Very simple. Almost as simple as pan lubing.

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7341 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Making Dies for Hand lube pumps Reply #5 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 7:01pm	Print Post
	I like Bob's idea best but, I like pan lubing better Another thing you can do is just bore 2 diameters. The rear band size the length of all but the front band and then just the front band so, it's sealed on both ends. No ones going to know it has a couple of thousands more luube on the first couple of bands. Frank

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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2239 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Making Dies for Hand lube pumps Reply #6 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:08pm	Print Post
	Frank, Thought I was being sneaky doing that and was not going to tell. May put one more step in the die. Chuck


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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: Making Dies for Hand lube pumps Reply #7 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:46am	Print Post
	I use an adjustable reamer to do mine. There is a long tapered lead on them and if you are careful it works pretty well. 40 Rod


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KAF Ex Member	Re: Making Dies for Hand lube pumps Reply #8 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 9:35am	Print Post
	The only reason to have a Hand lube pump, is because you did not bring enough pan lubed bullets to the shoot.


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don1885 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 386 Location: East Tennessee Joined: Oct 31^st, 2010	Re: Making Dies for Hand lube pumps Reply #9 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:29am	Print Post
	Amen Keith!

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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 4074 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: Making Dies for Hand lube pumps Reply #10 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:59am	Print Post
	Quote: The only reason to have a Hand lube pump, is because you did not bring enough pan lubed bullets to the shoot. Lubing bullets at the bench gives you something to do while you are waiting for cr@ppy wind conditions to improve! Froggie


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Making Dies for Hand lube pumps Reply #11 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 1:58pm	Print Post
	Green_Frog wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:59am: Quote: The only reason to have a Hand lube pump, is because you did not bring enough pan lubed bullets to the shoot. Lubing bullets at the bench gives you something to do while you are waiting for cr@ppy wind conditions to improve! Froggie Ok, but what if you run out of lubed bullets while conditions are stable?

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