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Would You Pay $900 for an Unertl Scope?
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Re: Would You Pay $900 for an Unertl Scope?
Reply #1 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:40am
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Not me!!! Especially for a 10X. But, I also wouldn't come even close to paying $1500 - $2000 for a 1" Unertl, no matter if it was a like new 36X

Nothing against the scopes, at all but, I just think they are over priced, in general. I can't see the 3/4" scopes being any better than a STS. I'd love to buy low and sell high on them though  Tongue

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Re: Would You Pay $900 for an Unertl Scope?
Reply #2 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 10:29am
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Looks like a 1 1/4 Unertl.  Good scopes. I managed a 250 with one last year at Tommy's using mine. 

I already have one, so no I wouldn't pay 900.00 for one. But now if it had a extra eye piece.................  Huh

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Re: Would You Pay $900 for an Unertl Scope?
Reply #3 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 11:04am
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I live in Canada where the prices for everything is higher.  I have two Unertl scopes, one 18x, and one 20x.  They are in good but not exellent condition.  One cost me $800 and one $750.  Those seem to be average prices up here.   

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Re: Would You Pay $900 for an Unertl Scope?
Reply #4 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 11:18am
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frnkeore wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:40am:
Nothing against the scopes, at all but, I just think they are over priced, in general. 
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Amen.  Unertl has somehow acquired a mystique that elevates it FAR above makes of equal quality, such as Fecker & Lyman, at least in the eyes of those with limited experience.

But I once profited from this mystique myself, by selling a Unertl to a fellow in Germany, who, in addition to the selling price, had to pay high shipping costs & a huge import duty.
  
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Re: Would You Pay $900 for an Unertl Scope?
Reply #5 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 11:26am
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I don't know if I'd pay $900 for a scope.  But I would tell myself 2 things before making that decision.
   
The first, it is only money.   

The next, I'm going to be dead a very long time.

These 2 things seem to help me decide if I really want something.  Frank M.
  
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Re: Would You Pay $900 for an Unertl Scope?
Reply #6 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 11:33am
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vbull wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 11:26am:
I don't know if I'd pay $900 for a scope.  But I would tell myself 2 things before making that decision.
  
The first, it is only money.  

The next, I'm going to be dead a very long time.

These 2 things seem to help me decide if I really want something.  Frank M.



Well said Frank!

I would also add;

How bad do I want it and will it make me happy once obtained.


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Re: Would You Pay $900 for an Unertl Scope?
Reply #7 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:01pm
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Gentleman, it is all relevant. I paid a hundred dollars for a ten power Unertl twenty years ago. I have bought them for less. How much is that hundred worth today. Inflation is killing us. I have three Lyman STS scopes and I can't see any difference in them and the two Unertls I have. I bought A very heavy barreled Winchester 52 once just to get the Unertl one inch scope on it. I sold the rifle and kept the scope and I have never used it but I was shocked, shocked I tell you when I saw one at gun show for fourteen hundred dollars. I have a one inch Tasco 6-18 power that uses the same type mounts and bases and it has optics that are second to none. One way to look at it, if you want and old style Lyman or Unertl is, you can't buy a new one.
  
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Re: Would You Pay $900 for an Unertl Scope?
Reply #8 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:14pm
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Payed 1400.00 for a .22 lowall with a Unertl 1 1/4 scope. Sold the rifle for 1000.00.  

Still have my 14 power Unertl. Paid 188.00 for it new.

Inflation is killing us and this country, for sure. Don't think we've seen anything yet.

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Re: Would You Pay $900 for an Unertl Scope?
Reply #9 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:47pm
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It's a lot more than inflation for the Unertl. In 1974, the STS sold for $145 and the Target 1 1/2" Unertl sold for $121 only the 2" ($168) and the 1" Programer ($222) sold for more than the STS. You can by a Target Spot or a STS for 1/2 to 2/3's the price of a 1 1/4 - 1 1/2 Unertl. I think the 2" Target and programer made the Unertl name but, all the rest of the line, benefited from it.

That 1 1/4 Target Unertl sold for $104 in '74. Inflation says that a STS should sell for $1255 if the 1 1/4 Unertl sells for $900.



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Re: Would You Pay $900 for an Unertl Scope?
Reply #10 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 4:21pm
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It's a matter of supply and demand, not whether the Unertls are any better than the Lymans. For some reason the Unertls command higher prices. This past year I sold two 8x  1 1/4" Unertls on e-pay, both in very good condition. One sold for $997 and the other for $1135. I put them out there and it was like a feeding frenzy. I paid $185 for one and $200 for the other, 7-8 years ago. I think these scopes likely ended up on '03 Springfields, as clone sniper rifles.
  
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Reply #11 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 4:29pm
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Yes and the same reason that the Winchester A5's sell for so much. Not to mention the Lyman Alaskan and 330 Weavers.

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Re: Would You Pay $900 for an Unertl Scope?
Reply #12 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 5:50pm
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frnkeore wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 4:29pm:
Yes and the same reason that the Winchester A5's sell for so much. 

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They do indeed...to "collectors" who don't seem to own Brophy's or Campbell's '03 books, which describe military usage of A5s in exhaustive detail.  The Army's ONLY officially-issued scope was the Warner-Swazey.  The relatively few A5s that might legitimately be called sniper-scopes were those issued to USMC in mounts modified to accept Mann-Neidner blocks.  I've had two sets of these mounts, one of which I wish I'd kept as a conversation piece, but I greedily succumbed to the lure of easy money by selling them on ebay--close to $1000 each.  Attach "sniper" to anything you're selling, however unfounded the claim, & watch the bidding go crazy; sniper-nuts buy, they don't read.  (Can they?)
  
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Re: Would You Pay $900 for an Unertl Scope?
Reply #13 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 5:53pm
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I must have fifteen or twenty sniper scopes. 


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Reply #14 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 7:13pm
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Seems to me that Unertls always commanded a higher price. Thinking back to 30 years ago, I remember a  Shooter showing up at the range with a . 22 LR M1885 sporting a Unertl that he mounted. Several shooters made comments like: "Look a Unertl", "Wish I could afford a Unertl",  "Where did you get that Unertl", "How much was the 'scope?", etc.

As for the question asked, I do not think I would pay $900.00. But then again, I thought I would never pay over $1.00 a gallon for unleaded gasoline....
  

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Reply #15 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 8:47pm
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Ray_Newman wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 7:13pm:
Seems to me that Unertls always commanded a higher price.


Not 30 years ago.  By the time production ended in the '90s, there was no direct competition from Feckers or Lymans.

Here's the last price list I received. 
  
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westerner wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 5:53pm:
I must have fifteen or twenty sniper scopes. 


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Hey, but you get free shipping. 

Whatever the scope is actually worth, the case is worth 50% of that--maybe more.
  
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And a couple Civil War sniper scopes, come to think of it. 

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Re: Would You Pay $900 for an Unertl Scope?
Reply #20 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 11:30pm
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bought a 10x Unertl with an extra 6x eye piece for $100 15 years ago for a guy who had just read Carlos Hathcock's book & wanted to build a "sniper" rifle, charged him $175, 6 months later he changed his mind and sold it back to me for $75. I still use it on my 22 rim fire hiwall. I also have a 20x STS, I like them both.
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westerner wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 5:53pm:
I must have fifteen or twenty sniper scopes. 


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Including one of these?

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The obvious fact that the scope does not at all match the illustration pasted in the box, or that the A5 tube has been fitted to Lyman mounts, won't trouble the sniper-nuts who'll be bidding--they don't sweat the small stuff.

The tube itself was originally part of a bore-scope--the scraped metal adjacent to the eyepiece was the location of a tightly-fitted brass bushing; the small, drilled spot in the tube wall accommodated a set-screw.  All this is clearly visible in the illustration.
  
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Reply #22 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 1:31pm
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I have started this addiction you call single shots 5 or 6 years ago. I went to a shoot in Eau Claire and that was it. I have spent 800 and 900 for unertl scopes  and even a little more but that was what I had to do to keep up in the crazy game. Please tell me what you payed for you single shots years ago. Can you still buy them for that today??
I friend told me once when I told him I think I paided to much for something, did you want it. could you afford it. Well then you didn't pay too much. Tommy Auger
  

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Reply #23 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 2:51pm
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Tommy," Please tell me what you payed for you single shots years ago. Can you still buy them for that today??" 
A very good point. I went to "acquisition  mode" about 15 years ago, when I had a real job (not that retirement is a bad job). I had in mind that after I retired, it wouldn't be as easy to write a check for a few grand for a single shot rifle. As it turns out that strategy has worked out rather nicely. I realize now that in most cases the guns and scopes I've collected are worth more than today's money. I've also learned to keep in mind how much it would cost to replace something before I sell it. Now I only sell things in order to fund new toys. I have two scopes that will be going on e-pay soon to fund the new DZ Arms 8x scope that I can't live without..... how many scopes do I need ? , just one more.
  
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how many scopes do I need ? , just one more.


All I can say to that is "ya, right" Smiley

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tommyauger wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 1:31pm:
...did you want it. could you afford it. Well then you didn't pay too much. Tommy Auger


Everyone complains about inflation, which of course has many causes (chiefly the reckless printing of money), but one of the lesser causes has got to be the refusal of most of this country's population to say "NO!--the price is too high and I won't pay it!"  (Like, for example, the Japanese are said to do.) I'm no better at practicing self-denial than anybody else, but try, at least, not to trick myself with easy rationalizations.  Buying today because you fear the price will be higher tomorrow is the classic recipe for out of control price spirals.  (Like all those home-buyers who HAD to have the McMansion, then ended up after the recession "under water"; they got exactly what they deserved.)

  
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Reply #26 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 4:42pm
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I've had several instances over the years that I passed on guns because I thought they were perhaps a few hundred dollars too much. In virtually all those instances it was a mistake because the guns increased in value to match or exceed that price in a year or two. I ended up missing out on some nice guns because of a relatively small amount of money.  My advice to myself is to try to project what the value will be in a year or two, unless I JUST HAVE TO HAVE that gun.
  
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Reply #27 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 8:35pm
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I can tell you how to handle this, if you want the gun or scope and it costs too much deal with the fellow and get the best deal you can and buy it. Then do what you need to get the new worn off and put it in the back of the safe and forget about how much it cost. A couple of years later it will be worth more than you paid for it. The way things are going with our government right now it may not take that long because every time I go to buy something I bought last week the price has gone up. Problem solved.
  

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tbird1960 wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 8:35pm:
...put it in the back of the safe and forget about how much it cost.


That is your purpose in buying it?  Mighty sweet music to the ears of all the gun dealers.
  
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"Mighty sweet music to the ears of all the gun dealers". 
This is one of the reasons why antique guns have become good investments. I've done pretty well selling some of the guns and scopes I bought years ago, very much better than if I had put the money in a bank at 1-2% interest.

  
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Reply #30 - Dec 9th, 2013 at 10:12am
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Leupold high power Target cost 800 plus, used will sell for 80 -90 % of new.  Jap Weaveer Cost 500 or so used sells for half that.  Friend of mine has a Night Force that was well over 2000 bucks. Sniper fans like them and no doubt would pay high dollar for a used one.

Unertl that's in nice shape less expensive than the high dollar American made Scopes and will always re-sell for what it cost.

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"Unertl that's in nice shape less expensive than the high dollar American made Scopes and will always re-sell for what it cost"

There you go, buy it - use it - then sell it for what you paid and maybe even make money on it - sounds like a good plan to me.
  
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Reply #32 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 10:22pm
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I have a Unirtl programer  on a browning highwall. I payed about 400. About 20 wears agoe. They are selling for over 1k now. Also a 15 power 1 1/2 i payed 100. For about 15 year ago. I like the scopes, but i also like my two sts scopes. Cant se e much diff. Between them. Smiley
  
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