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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1633 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Pope lube pump on E-Bay Oct 27^th, 2013 at 6:46am	Print Post
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RJM Full Member Offline Posts: 212 Location: State of Confusion Joined: Oct 15^th, 2006	Re: Pope lube pump on E-Bay Reply #1 - Oct 27^th, 2013 at 8:55am	Print Post
	Looks nice, but what is with the stamping, "J.M PHILLIPS SAC" in addition to the HM Pope stamping? Regards, Ron


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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Pope lube pump on E-Bay Reply #2 - Oct 27^th, 2013 at 11:12am	Print Post
	Did Pope do his own brass castings or did he machine the brass body? Is it possible that that added name is the company that supplied the brass body to Pope's design? I know "wait for the books"

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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1633 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Re: Pope lube pump on E-Bay Reply #3 - Oct 27^th, 2013 at 11:15am	Print Post
	QuestionableMaynard8130 wrote on Oct 27^th, 2013 at 11:12am: I know "wait for the books" I'm waiting patiently.

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RJM Full Member Offline Posts: 212 Location: State of Confusion Joined: Oct 15^th, 2006	Re: Pope lube pump on E-Bay Reply #4 - Oct 27^th, 2013 at 1:41pm	Print Post
	I doubt if Pope was casting his own parts, since he was essentially working out of his garage in Hartford, and there were many casting companies near Hartford at that time. He did have the patterns for the lubricator and for the universal bullet mold and probably provided them to the casting company when he wanted a run of castings made. The patterns for the bullet mold were destroyed in San Francisco, but Stevens made some lubricators, so those probably remained in Chicopee Falls. "The Story of Pope's Barrels" by Ray Smith, page 46 shows a picture of the patterns, castings, and completed lubricator. The picture of the patterns for universal bullet mold is on page 45. I'll try to attach a picture.


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RJM Full Member Offline Posts: 212 Location: State of Confusion Joined: Oct 15^th, 2006	Re: Pope lube pump on E-Bay Reply #5 - Oct 27^th, 2013 at 8:37pm	Print Post
	$909! That was exciting Regards, Ron


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creedmoormatch Ex Member	Re: Pope lube pump on E-Bay Reply #6 - Nov 1^st, 2013 at 7:18am	Print Post
	Actually, the cost was $909.oo, plus expedited shipping at $5.oo . . . Total $914.oo Very nice piece. C.M.M.


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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1851 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: Pope lube pump on E-Bay Reply #7 - Nov 1^st, 2013 at 9:10am	Print Post
	The other name was probably the person it belonged to, I have one with the individuals initials, he also apparently put the gun serial numbers (last 3 digits) on them sometimes. JMO


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RJM Full Member Offline Posts: 212 Location: State of Confusion Joined: Oct 15^th, 2006	Re: Pope lube pump on E-Bay Reply #8 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 8:47am	Print Post
	bnice wrote on Nov 1^st, 2013 at 9:10am: The other name was probably the person it belonged to, I have one with the individuals initials, he also apparently put the gun serial numbers (last 3 digits) on them sometimes. JMO That's not uncommon. My pope mold has the former owner's name carved into the wood handles. Regards, Ron


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Kurt_701 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1013 Location: Missouri Joined: May 20^th, 2004	Re: Pope lube pump on E-Bay Reply #9 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:06pm	Print Post
	There were two lube pumps sold by the same gentleman. One was marked Pope with the additional markings. The second was marked with just the numbers 187. Based on Kelver's "Respectfully Yours - H.M. Pope" page 31, there is a picture and caption indicating the #187 is a Stevens-Pope product and appears on several pumps associated with Stevens- Pope rifles. More as a product # than being associated with a certain Pope rifle. ????? Kurt

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Sendaro Oldtimer Offline When the sight is on SEND IT! Posts: 588 Location: Saratoga Springs NY Joined: Nov 21^st, 2010	Re: Pope lube pump on E-Bay Reply #10 - Nov 3^rd, 2013 at 8:32am	Print Post
	It may seem like a dumb question but I'd like to know. Some lube pumps extruded a ribbon rather that directly lubing the bullet. Why and how was the lube applied with the ribbon? With fingers? Sendaro


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7267 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Pope lube pump on E-Bay Reply #11 - Nov 3^rd, 2013 at 3:15pm	Print Post
	I believe the main purpose for the ribbon was for lube wads. Frank

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Sendaro Oldtimer Offline When the sight is on SEND IT! Posts: 588 Location: Saratoga Springs NY Joined: Nov 21^st, 2010	Re: Pope lube pump on E-Bay Reply #12 - Nov 5^th, 2013 at 7:10pm	Print Post
	Frank, That sounds logical. Thanks, Sendaro


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