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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Stevens Tip up rifle case hardened reciever? Jul 13^th, 2008 at 2:02am	Print Post
	Looking at a Tip Up with a case hardened reciever. My references state either nickeled or browned. Gun looks very good. I am thinking refinished. Opinions??


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marlinguy Ex Member Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater!	Re: Stevens Tip up rifle case hardened reciever? Reply #1 - Jul 13^th, 2008 at 7:47pm	Print Post
	It's pretty rare to see any Tip Up that isn't plated frame. The ones I see that aren't plated are usually so worn that it's hard to tell what finish they originally had.

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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: Stevens Tip up rifle case hardened reciever? Reply #2 - Jul 14^th, 2008 at 8:16am	Print Post
	I looked up the 1898 Catalog all the tip up rifles and pistols are discribed as haveing a Nickel Plated frame. 40 Rod


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Bad_Ass_Wallace Full Member Offline Posts: 150 Location: Kingaroy, Australia Joined: Jul 29^th, 2005	Re: Stevens Tip up rifle case hardened reciever? Reply #3 - Jul 14^th, 2008 at 8:53am	Print Post
	Interesting collection of Stevens here for sale! (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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marlinguy Ex Member Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater!	Re: Stevens Tip up rifle case hardened reciever? Reply #4 - Jul 14^th, 2008 at 8:13pm	Print Post
	40_Rod wrote on Jul 14^th, 2008 at 8:16am: I looked up the 1898 Catalog all the tip up rifles and pistols are discribed as haveing a Nickel Plated frame. 40 Rod All the old Stevens catalogs listed them as having plated frames, but they surely did build unplated, as I've seen (and owned) numerous examples that were not plated. I've stripped them down to see if there were any signs internally of plating, and found they were truly never plated on some rifles. I'd guess these to be special order options, since all catalogs list plated. If you want to figure out if the Stevens Tip Up you're looking at is original finish, ask if you can remove the buttstock. If it looks like new under the wood I think it might be redone, as even well maintained originals age under the wood.

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k0wtz Ex Member	Re: Stevens Tip up rifle case hardened reciever? Reply #5 - May 30^th, 2009 at 9:10am	Print Post
	marlin i have discussed my tipup with you before. i found a 32 rimfire cartredge it doesnt fit very well. it was sold to me as a 22 rimfire but it looks like a centerfire to me. any help i can find no markings on this rifle. thanks bob


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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Offline Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2063 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: Stevens Tip up rifle case hardened reciever? Reply #6 - May 30^th, 2009 at 4:53pm	Print Post
	I've owned a few Stevens tip-up rifles in the past, a friend even had one in 32-40, although I wouldn't want to shoot it. The ones I've seen have the length of the cartridge stamped on the side of the barrel under the frame, so you can see it when you open the breech-barrel. as an example a 25-25 will be stamped "25" a 25-21 will be stamped "21" as I recall the 32-40 was stamped "40." Bob


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leadball Ex Member	Re: Stevens Tip up rifle case hardened reciever? Reply #7 - May 30^th, 2009 at 10:34pm	Print Post
	I've never seen or read of a casehardened Stevens Tip-up. Of course, Stevens would give the buyer want he wanted, so there may be some special made Tip-up's that were casehardened. leadball


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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2238 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Stevens Tip up rifle case hardened reciever? Reply #8 - May 30^th, 2009 at 10:59pm	Print Post
	Don't know anything about this, but thought I read Stevens used a fairly distinctive cyanide case hardening, which is not real common on refinishes or other actions.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16343 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Stevens Tip up rifle case hardened reciever? Reply #9 - May 30^th, 2009 at 11:24pm	Print Post
	Stevens did cyanide caseharden, but that was on the 44 and later guns. Not sure what they did on the non-plated early Tip Ups. I too have seen and shot Tip Ups in not only .32-40, but also a .38-55. They aren't a strong action, but actually stronger than the 44's made in these two calibers. Both of these large caliber Tip Ups had unplated receivers. My Stevens Tip Up in .32-35 Stevens/Maynard doesn't have any markings on the side of the barrel to indicate caliber. Just the serial number, a 2, and 4 dots under the number that look like pin punch marks.

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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens Tip up rifle case hardened reciever? Reply #10 - May 31^st, 2009 at 12:28am	Print Post
	I thought this topic was dead a long time ago. Glad to see it revived. It is my understanding that the tip ups were not marked with caliber. Only own two so far, a .22 and a 12 guage shotgun. Neither are marked. Looked at a nice .32 RF a couple of weeks ago and it was not marked either. Passed on the case hardened gun because I thought it was a refinish. The .32 RF I just looked at was nickel plated . Yes they are neat guns and I am in the market for more.


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k0wtz Ex Member	Re: Stevens Tip up rifle case hardened reciever? Reply #11 - May 31^st, 2009 at 8:31am	Print Post
	slumlord my tip us was sold to me as a 25rf but i friend has a 32 r/r cartridge and it doesnt fit. the firing pin sure looks like a centerfire to me. in talking to david he is thinking c/f also. there are no markings on my rifle either so i guess i will send it to him for possibly a reline to something else. i have the serial nr. and a 2 also this was stupid of them wasnt it? bob


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16343 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Stevens Tip up rifle case hardened reciever? Reply #12 - May 31^st, 2009 at 6:06pm	Print Post
	Cartridge markings on early guns was hit and miss at best, by almost all makers. Marlin Ballards didn't get calibers marked until the early 1880's. Remingtons got vague caliber markings sometimes, and then other times exact markings. Something like ".44 CTG" or ".44S" might be different cartridges, but then again they might be the same cartridge! Stevens too eventually stamped cartridge types, but not until the later 44 model came around.

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