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May 31st, 2008 at 11:31pm
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I would like an air rifle for indoor practice, but would want one which would simulate the weigh and trigger of a Schuetzen rifle. Are there any out there that would fit the bill? thanks! Joe S
  
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Reply #1 - Jun 1st, 2008 at 8:09am
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Joe it's hard to duplicate exactly, most match airguns hang about like a Modern Silhouette rifle. Forearm heavy with not much butt plate.  I tried to set mine up more like Schuetzens but have never found the right hook buttplate.  When I shoot it with a palm rest the butt wants to drift around, ended up thumb and finger rest on the forearm with butt well into my shoulder. Not like my Schuetzens at all.

It's still very good practice.  I think you will find the single stroke 10 M match airguns are out of favor with shooters, most going to pre-charged rifles.  That makes the older hand cocked style priced lower used.  If you can find a nice one FWB 300's are very good shooters.

Another thing while it's a 10 M gun it shoots fine at 50 feet on the ASSRA target.

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Reply #2 - Jun 1st, 2008 at 10:01pm
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Joe,
It is verboten to discharge firearms in the city where I live, but I have a back yard suitable for offhand practice, complete with wind.  I bought an East German-made Haenel Model 312 for very little.  I forget how much, but $50 comes to mind.  It came with an adj trigger, globe front sight with inserts, and a W&E adj peep rear sight, along with an adj buttplate.  Also came with a box of tools.   It is one of those side-lever-cocking affairs.  I find I like those better than the ones that use the barrel as a cocking lever.  It shoots better than I can offhand, and that's all you really need.   

Seems to me that adding a Schuetzen-type buttplate and a bit of weight on the barrel and even a palm rest would not be difficult.  A friend modified one by adding weight to the barrel in the form of a coil of solder.  When He got the balance right, he secured the thing with duct tape.  Not pretty, but it worked.

You can shoot into a cardboard box filled with sand or rags.  You don't need the high-powered type.  We have family air-rifle matches along with the hot dogs & beer.

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Reply #3 - Jun 3rd, 2008 at 9:20am
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What is the weight of the Haenel 312 and the FWB 300? Thanks! JoeS
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 3rd, 2008 at 9:01pm
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My Airgun is a Walther and with Scope it's just under 10 lbs. Barrel weights allow it to be anything you want it to be but muzzle heavy compared to my 14 pound plus Schuetzens. The Schuetzen is perfectly balanced on the palm rest. 

The FWB 300's I shot a lot were  club rifles while living out of the country. They set the bar up with folding backstops and drank while they shot.  Something I never got used too. Ligher than the Walther. Guessing 9 lbs and well balanced.  FWB's should be 300 bucks or so used.  Try the airgun web sites

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Reply #5 - Jun 3rd, 2008 at 10:31pm
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If  I could find one at that price I would be interested, have spent some time online but not found much. If you have any leads, let me know. If I buy used, are parts still available?  Thanks!
  
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Reply #6 - Nov 10th, 2008 at 10:56pm
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I have been looking for a FWB 300 with no luck. What would some comparable alternatives be? If anyone knows of a FWB300 for sale, I would be interested. Thanks! Joe S
  
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Reply #7 - Nov 11th, 2008 at 9:01am
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         I'm also interested in a Feinwerkbau 300, I would sure like to se one [in hand] before I buy--there is also a 110 model that sells for much less but I haven't seen one of those either.  Maybe an air rifle wil not fit me like the schuetzen but any kind of winter shooting will be better than none.    leadball
  
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Reply #8 - Nov 11th, 2008 at 9:20am
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Joe, the Anshutz buttplates will fit your needs. Chapion's choice or Neil 
Johnson's sell a variety of new and used plates with LOP adjustment, hooks, etc. The RWS type pellet traps ane effective, cheap, mount on a tripod, can be used anywhere from yard to cellar, I think I paid about 25 bucks for one.
  
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Reply #9 - Nov 11th, 2008 at 2:48pm
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A nice FWB 300 is going to run from $500 to $900 depending on condition.  If you are looking to spend less I have a RWS Diana model 45ST Stutzen in .177 cal available for $300.  Regards... Gary
  
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Reply #10 - Nov 11th, 2008 at 2:58pm
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HI Gary, 

I may be interested, tell me more about it, weight, trigger adjustment, etc. Thanks,Joe
  
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Reply #11 - Nov 11th, 2008 at 9:50pm
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I just found a FWB 300 on the internet and bought it. Thanks to all who helped out! Joe S
  
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Reply #12 - Nov 11th, 2008 at 10:50pm
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What about one of the large-bore Quackenbush air rifles?  You MIGHT get him to build one in Scheutzen style!

  
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Reply #13 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 9:10am
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I'd like to add a note concerning the target backstop for indoor airgun practice.  Some sort of small box approx 8 inches deep with a clip in front to hold the target and ductseal on the rear wall works great.  The secret is the ductseal.  It's used to seal the gap around a mechanical duct that penetrates a wall.  It is really non-hardening putty.  I bought a 10 lb brick for about 15 bucks.  Flatten it out on the rear wall of your box to about an inch + thick.  It will hold hundreds of pellets...when it gets too full; simply pull them all out with needlenose pliers, re-shape the putty, and you are good to go again.  With this putty; I have never lost a spent pellet out into the room.

I use an FWB 602.  Great fun and great practice.

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