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will_ballard
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Jul 27th, 2007 at 11:07am
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MY DAD WANTS ME TO BUY HIS ERIC JOHNSON 5 STAR 22 BALLARD . IT IS A NICKLE RECIVER THE WOOD IS DARK BUT NO CRACKS THE BARREL IS 99% THE RECIVER IS 90%.HE SAYS IT IS WORTH ABOUT 4000.
ARE THESE THAT GOOD OF A BARREL?
  
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J.D.Steele
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Reply #1 - Jul 27th, 2007 at 1:09pm
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Have owned several Eric Johnson rifles but none were priced over $2000 due to inferior stock shaping and finishing. Apparently Eric Johnson either didn't do his own stockwork or else he didn't take the same pains with it as his impeccable metalwork. Very similar to C.C. Johnson, he also did absolutely impeccable metalwork but his woodwork was not in the same class.

The last Eric Johnson rifle I owned was a 5-star Ballard 22LR with spectacularly-figured walnut and specially-machined bore. I paid $225 for it and sold it for $400, about 8 yrs ago.

Those prices were not products of ignorance, they were products of the truly spectacular ugliness and unsurpassed poor workmanship of the stocks on that particular rifle.

Give is a picture and we can tell you more.
Good luck, Joe
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 28th, 2007 at 2:11am
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greetings had one simular to bloods, sold it 1 1/2 yrs ago for 900..

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Reply #3 - Jul 28th, 2007 at 8:32am
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A friend bought an Eric Johnson 5 star barreled Ballard. It was stocked as a position rifle the stock work was good and the rifle is a great shooter. the price was I belive $1800. 

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Reply #4 - Jul 28th, 2007 at 1:34pm
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I sold one several years ago to a good friend for 600 bucks. It has been for sale for years at a local gun shop, I got it trading assorted modern guns.

A lot is said about Johnson Ballards and how they are collectors items in there own right.  But there is little to no demand from collectors for a worked over positon rifle on single shot actions, Particulary when it's ugly.  As good a gunsmith as Johnson was it's said he did not do the stock work. This particular rifle I could have stocked better and I am no craftsman.

However at 600 bucks it's a tack driver bench rest 22 and was well worth the money. He enjoys competing with it and lets me shoot it anytime I want. When you get over a thousand I wonder about the value. More than a Thousand I know a Johnson small bore conversion is overpriced.  It could be the one 40 rod is talking about, it had a B&L Balvar I charged him another 500 for.

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Reply #5 - Jul 28th, 2007 at 8:35pm
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Only one way it could be worth that kind of money. If it was a very nice factory engraved Ballard that had been rebarreled by Johnson. Even then I'm not sure it would get $4K.
I passed up a #6 Schuetzen Ballard with a CC Johnson barrel on it years ago at $2,200. It was all factory, except the barrel. Wish I hadn't passed on it now.
  
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Reply #6 - Jul 29th, 2007 at 6:22pm
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will_ballard wrote on Jul 27th, 2007 at 11:07am:
MY DAD WANTS ME TO BUY HIS ERIC JOHNSON 5 STAR 22 BALLARD . IT IS A NICKLE RECIVER THE WOOD IS DARK BUT NO CRACKS THE BARREL IS 99% THE RECIVER IS 90%.HE SAYS IT IS WORTH ABOUT 4000.
ARE THESE THAT GOOD OF A BARREL?


Let's make this easy, it's only worth what it will bring. If you really want the rifle, then ask him to show you one that brought that kind of money. They had better be the same.

What you want, may not be the same as what it's worth!
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 15th, 2009 at 2:02am
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Unless it is a REALLY NICE rifle, It is worth more to him than to anyone else. R.B.
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 15th, 2009 at 11:36pm
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Eric Johnson made his own bbl's and chambering reamers - he was a Camp Perry smallbore champion.  In his heyday people bought model 52 Winchesters and sent them to Eric to have them rebarreled with out ever having shot them.  But unless there is something really special about that Ballard other than the barrel I would say $1000 - $1200.  But thats just my opinion.  I currently own one and it is a shooter. - respectfully - the rimfire - cdpersons
  
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