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Jan 17th, 2006 at 7:05pm
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This came in at work today.  Interesting...

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U.S. Repeating Arms Company to Close

New Haven, Connecticut Facility

 

U.S. Repeating Arms Company, maker of Winchester brand rifles and shotguns will close its New Haven, Connecticut manufacturing facility.  Many efforts were made to improve profitability at the manufacturing facility in New Haven, and the decision was made after exhausting all available options.

 

Effective March 31, 2006 the New Haven manufacturing facility will stop manufacturing the Winchester Model 70, Model 94 and Model 1300.

 

Winchester Firearms will continue to see and grow its current line of Select over & under shotguns, the new Super X3 autoloading shotgun, the new Super X autoloading rifle and Limited Edition rifles.  The company also plans to introduce new models in the future.  There will be no change in Customer Service.

 

This action is a realignment of resources to make Winchester Firearms a stronger, more viable organization.  Winchester Firearms plans to continue the great Winchester legacy and is very excited about the future.

 

 

  

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Reply #1 - Jan 17th, 2006 at 7:42pm
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>>> is very excited about the future. <<<

I'll bet the workers in New Haven are excited, also....

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Reply #2 - Jan 17th, 2006 at 8:29pm
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U.S. Repeating Arms Company to Close

New Haven, Connecticut Facility



Sigh.

"The old order changeth, yielding place to new, and God fulfils Himself in many ways, lest one good custom should corrupt the world." [Tennyson, "The Passing of Arthur"]
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 17th, 2006 at 9:03pm
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I knew Winchester wouldn't make it when they told John Browning they didn't need him any longer.   leadball
  
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Reply #4 - Jan 17th, 2006 at 9:15pm
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Boy.  Doesn't take a genius to read between THOSE lines...wonder why they didn't just say "it's cheaper and more profitable to build guns offshore and stamp them "Winchester", than run our own facility and be burdened with employees, overhead, and pension plans..."

Chalk up another one to bean-counters and corporate raiders.

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Reply #5 - Jan 18th, 2006 at 12:06am
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Just part of being owned by FN...had a call from a customer today looking for a shell holder for an FN shotgun...the Win. 1300 with a different name...

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Reply #6 - Jan 18th, 2006 at 5:39am
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   For as long as USRA/Winchester has been under common ownership with Browning, they have been owned by the FRENCH! They are listed as owned by FN which had a long, long relationship with Browning but who is in turn is owned by a FFrench corporation which as I understand it the armsmaker for the French government. There is no allegiance to customers in the USA nor workers of New Haven to be found in that arrangement.
    Actually I'm not sure Winchester has ever been totally out of financial problems. At thd time the vaunted pre-64 line was phased out, some of the guns weere being built on machines installed in the factory in the 1860s and so worn out and partds tolerances so high each gun was virtually hand fitted. Maybe good for the purchaser but not for business..
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 18th, 2006 at 10:49am
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As long as the great unwashed buying public is more interested in "new & improved" than in old-time quality, these things will continue to happen.

For this reason, & many others, I shun Wal-Mart. I personally would rather pay slightly more at a locally-owned store for US-made products and get personal service & product satisfaction at the same time. And furthermore I don't buy none o' them rice-burner automobiles neither (although I might consider a Lexus if I could afford one).

The majority of the buying public reminds me of magpies. They are absolute suckers for anything new & bright & shiny, and of course they end up with a nest full of trash as a result.
Too bad, Joe
  
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Reply #8 - Jan 18th, 2006 at 7:16pm
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any idea which guns ARE still made in USA by companies owned by US citizens?  Ruger comes to mind but the only other ones I know if are all small specialized and high priced semi-custom----but I'd LOVE to be corrected.
  

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Reply #9 - Jan 18th, 2006 at 9:55pm
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Is there some fuzzy feeling folks are supposed to get by being reassured that their poor service will remain poor?
"will be no change in Customer Service. "
DWS, Marlins are all American made.
  
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Reply #10 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 5:34am
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    So far s I know, Smith and Wesson has been back in US ownership for a number of years. I believe Savage is as well as Marlin (which encompasses NEI and Mossberg also) however one never knows how many layers of ownership separate us from reality. Smaller companies like Kimber, Springfield Armoury are of course American owned. Thankfully the current makers of most repro single shot rifles are homegrown.
  
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Reply #11 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 12:19pm
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If I remember correctly, when Olin sold Winchester FIREARM div, not the ammo div, GAIT, a French company, bought them and then sold them to FN 's parent company, Herstal, A Belgium company. At that time they updated equipment and seemed to be on the road to recovery. Tis a sad event to be sure.
  
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Reply #12 - Jan 20th, 2006 at 6:37pm
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   So far s I know, Smith and Wesson has been back in US ownership for a number of years. I believe Savage is as well as Marlin (which encompasses NEI and Mossberg also) however one never knows how many layers of ownership separate us from reality. Smaller companies like Kimber, Springfield Armoury are of course American owned. Thankfully the current makers of most repro single shot rifles are homegrown.
 

DonH, Marlin owns NEF, but I don't believe they have anything to do with Mossberg. Like Marlin, Mossberg is still family owned, although their Maverick line is Mexican made.
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Reply #13 - Jan 21st, 2006 at 12:47am
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I think a good part of the problem lies w/in the walls of the Winchester factory.  I’ve heard of  & seen: pressed checkering on rifles,  feeding problems w/ pistol cartridges in the M94, poor fit  & finish. 

After a while, poor products just don’t sell.  Also quality costs $$ & most aren’t willing to pay for it. Everyone wants a Winchester  M1885, but having "the wants" & "money-in-the-hand " for what a new Win M1885 would probabaly cost are 2 different things. 

As for their "flagship" rifle, just how many millions of M94s can the American market absorb?
  

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Reply #14 - Jan 21st, 2006 at 8:07pm
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I think a good part of the problem lies w/in the walls of the Winchester factory. 

After a while, poor products just don’t sell.  Also quality costs $$ & most aren’t willing to pay for it. 

As for their "flagship" rifle, just how many millions of M94s can the American market absorb?


Right on, Ray! For comparison, please note that the Marlin Co is still making a superior product from walnut and steel, and seems to be still selling a fair number of lever rifles even after over 100 years (VBG). Quality counts. Yeah I know they aren't quite as finely finished as they were 100 years ago, but they're still the best available IMO.

I just wish they still made that fine-lookin' single shot.
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