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PETE
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Reply #15 - Nov 14th, 2005 at 5:11pm
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Steve,

   Grin Well, thanks for the compliment but I don't think I'm always right. JUst ask the people I know!

  The "Chicken" load thread has stretched my load development knowledge to the limit. Was about to think it wasn't gonna come around but got something now that is at least as good as my heavy bullet load. Will have to pass it along on that thread if anyone's interested.

  I enjoyed watching you guys shoot that first Shilouette match and looking forward to next year. Looked like a lot of fun!

  Man! You're a glutton for punishment shooting a .45/90 in a Shilouette legal rifle. Makes me hurt just thinking about it. You plan on doing some long range shooting with it?

  Any truth to the rumor I heard that they will be putting up berms for next year? 

  I agree.... It looks like the CVR will have quite a few interesting matches next year. Makes me wonder if they'll have time to put on any CAS matches. Doubt if I'll make those tho, as I'm also planning on shooting some of the CBA Military Matches & SS matches, plus of course our regular Schuetzen schedule at Pine Ridge. Might have to skip a match or two just to do the Shilouette.

Feather,

  Figured it had to be you! With a handle like that I remember at first we all thought you had to be a woman. Kind of embarassing when we found out differently.

  I hope you have some comments on the "Chicken" thread.... good or bad..... as you've been in Shilouette since the beginning, or close to it anyway. If I was guessing I'd say you've probably been thru anything I've been thru in that thread a long time ago.

PETE
  
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Reply #16 - Nov 15th, 2005 at 3:32pm
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Pete: Re: Silhouette range-Yes CVR is working toward the goal of having some berms in the future.  As you know, it is very difficult to see or call misses because of the flat land and field backgrounds.  The last fall match saw a rusty sheet steel background berm at the Turkey line installed and this helped quite a bit, as the misses were easily spotted.  There are some other improvments in the works as time and money permit.  Since we have the only silhouette range in Iowa, and fairly close to home, I guess we should feel pretty fortunate.  Now as to the 45-90, you're right, it's probally more gun then is necessary, but fortunately I'm not too recoil sensitive, (knock on wood) right now, however I do wear a pad.  Last year I shot a 45-70 all year, and I like to pick just one gun and stick with it all year for all the different matches if I can.  I think it works better for me, to get real comfortable with just one rifle and how it preforms. I usually pick one in the Spring and shoot it all year, regardless of the type of match.  This next year I'm planing on shooting the Browning I just chambered out to 45-90, since what little shooting I have done with it this fall indicates its going to shoot great.  Last fun match they had at Ackley a couple weeks ago, it went 49/50 out to 500 yds, so some of the first testing I've done with it seems to be working ok.  I am really more concerned to get it right to shoot the mid and long ranges  next year to 1000.  Right now it looks pretty promising, but I won't really know till spring as all I can shoot it to a few times this winter will be to 800 yds.  As you know, there is a very big differance between 800 and 1000yds, so only time will tell if it will hold up well at 1000yd.  Once I do get the particular rifle on line, I do usually use two or three specilized loads depending on the match, like the "chicken load" thing.    Best regards steve witt
  
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Reply #17 - Nov 15th, 2005 at 6:36pm
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Steve,

  It'll be great when they get the berms in as I recall comments on the lack being voiced quite a bit while I was there. Also, if you happen to get to the Turkeys at the wrong time I've heard it's mighty difficult to see them against the background. I'll bet that steel plate was  great help.

  The lack of a range here in Iowa has been the main reason I haven't shot Shilouette before. I for one am glad you guys have gone to the trouble to set one up here. Looking forward to it!

  After making that comment about using your .45/90 for LR I got to thinking you might also be going to use it for the Buffalo matches seeing as how the Buffs are set in the dirt. They still are.... right? The first year we shot it our .45/70's seemed just a tad weak for the job altho we didn't have any "dingers". We went to the .50/90's and that cured that problem.  Grin So I think that /90 ought to do the trick to.

  I wish I had your fortitude to use only one gun a year. Might be a better shot if I did. I think I used and worked up three CF guns for both black and smokeless for our Schuetzen and WSU matches, plus played around a bit with different ammo for the .22.

  Can't speak for shooting at 800 to 1000 yds. as the most I've ever shot BP was 500 yds. at the NCOWS Nats. and 600 yds. in High Power many years ago. But, if what I read is true, going from 800 to 1000 yds. is what separates the men from the boys.

  Seems I recall that at Ackley all you can shoot out to there is 800 yds. That true? Or can you go further but just haven't? Dang! Like to try that to!

PETE
  
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Reply #18 - Nov 16th, 2005 at 12:42pm
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Pete:  The berms certainly do help for the Turkeys, but, It's the chickens that really vanish in the afternoon light.  These definately need some type of berm or backboard.  They are tough enough as is, but when you can't see them -well !!!   Yep, I plan on using the Browning 90 on the Buffalo as well as all the other Ackley matches.  A 90 does give one an edge, I think, on the Buffalo, and yes they are still stuck in the dirt, as you say.  As far as the 1000 yd target goes, we have actually been shooting this distance for a couple years at Ackley.  The last couple years we have been holding a couple mid/long range matches a year.  Usually the mid-range 200 to 600yd is on Sat and the LR, 800-900-1000yd match is on the same weekend Sunday.   Target size for the LR is not standard 6'x6'.  We make it tougher, and I think in the long run this makes for better spotters and shooters.  The 800 yd target is about 3' wide and 6' tall.  The 900 and 1000yd target is a Buffalo shape about the size of a yearling, main body is about 4' tall, give or take,  and it is about 6' long.   10 for record at each distance, after about 5 minutes worth of sighters and spotters.  I love the LR as it keeps you and your spotter on your toes.  Great fun, you'll have to try it sometime.    Best regards steve
  
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Reply #19 - Nov 16th, 2005 at 6:16pm
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Steve,

  Well...... Hmmmm! Yeah. I guess I'll have to find time to do this LR. But, I'll have to be careful as my guns have never shot that far and I don't want to ruin them by stretching the barrels. Gotta ease them into it. New barrels ain't cheap you know!  Grin

  When shooting this 1000 yd. match how do you shoot it? Prone? Can you do it sitting? That'll have to do me as that's the reason I don't do High Power anymore. Can't bend the body or neck back far enuf to be anywhere near comfortable. Painful actually!

  On the mid range targets..... What are they?

  Even if only once I'd like to say I've shot at 1000 yds.

PETE
  
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Reply #20 - Nov 18th, 2005 at 4:50pm
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Pete:  Before your shooting days are over, and I hope that day never comes, you really must experience 1000 yd shooting! At Actley, as far as I know, you can use any position you wish including sitting on the ground or sitting on a low bench as long as you are using cross sticks.  Many, but certainly not all, shoot prone as it seems to be the most stable position.  As far as the mid range targets go, the same sitting rule would apply.  The MR  targets are usual distances anywhere from 200 to 600 yds. The shooter is told the distances.  The targets them selves are a little hard to discribe as to size and shape as they are a variety of steel animal targets of approximate life size.  The targets might vary from match to match, and are often switched around as to distances, but they would include a black bear, wolf, coyote, pig, ram, mountain lion, buffalo head(front facing), deer, and maby one or two I've missed.  The odd shapes at various distances can sometimes play tricks on the old sight picture.  Never the less it a good time.  Hope to see you next year.    Best regards steve witt
  
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Reply #21 - Nov 19th, 2005 at 10:12am
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Steve,

  Thanks for the info. Glad we can use the sitting position if we want. In my case it will be mandatory, altho I know prone is best. Just gotta work with the cards I've been dealt, so just wanted to check and see before getting all excited about it.

  Sounds like the targets will make it appear almost like a Shilouette match.... only starting out further.

  Gotta agree! A person has to try 1000 yd.s at least once in their life. Bet you can shoot, and have time to look thru your spotting scope before the bullet hits.  Grin Which reminds me..... Are spotters allowed in this match? Considering the lay of the land up there, and your current Shilouette layout, how do you get sight settings?

PETE
  
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Reply #22 - Dec 18th, 2005 at 12:44am
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Hi, 

I have the same question, as does Shep_Madera. I would like to find a place near where I live. I’m in California in the San Francisco Bay Area. I recently got my Sharps 45-70 and I have been doing a lot of shooting and loading for it. Yet I would like to compete with it. Does anyone have any suggestions? Yes, I know I’m not in the heart of where these big guns are most popular. Yet I’m not going to stop me looking. 
  
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Re: single shot silhouette
Reply #23 - Jan 2nd, 2006 at 4:44pm
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Shep... Grin

Don't know "where" in Western MT you live but if you want to do full course black powder silhouettes you can do that in Missoula @ Deep Creek...nomally on the 3rd weekend of the month during shooting season, & there are matches in Butte too. There are also some matches in Eastern Oregon, Bend & Baker, & Boise Idaho has some as well but I've never been to one there. Maybe this year. Have a great new year & God Bless Grin
  

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