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roller singlw set trigger
Sep 14th, 2004 at 9:36pm
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Okay guys,   news flash  Cheesy     Steve Earle ( maker of oustanding bases and the Wesson action is close to finishing the design work on a new/different roller single set trigger.  He feels the same as many that the old original factory set trigger wasn't much good/reliable.  I have encouraged him to make a new design and he feels he has come up with a better idea. We talked about it this evening and we may have the first one on a roller of mine in a few weeks for testing. If there is the slighest as to the quality of his work, just ask around. There were many at E.G. this past week end that saw his Wesson action and can testify to his quality. The parts will be made of D2 steel and properly hardened. These parts will have to be installed in your action as it requires exacting precision in placement as to relation to hammer. This isn't a job for the average guy so triggers won't be sold without being fitted.  Just thought some of y'all would be interested.   Ken
  
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Reply #1 - Oct 11th, 2004 at 7:31am
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Well fellow smoke makers, the time draws near for Mr. Steve Earle to finish his single set trigger for the #1 and #5 roller action. Perhaps I should say "much improved trigger" as he has improved the design and is using only D2 steel. Anyone who has seen the Wesson action shown around by Dale McGee at Etna Green recently will testify to the absolute top quality found in Steve's work thus can be assured the trigger will be the same.   I have five ordered for some of my rollers.  Ken
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 12th, 2004 at 4:54am
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how can I contact Mr. Earle?
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 12th, 2004 at 8:49am
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Steve can reached at 781-585-6504 EST.   He likes to called after 7:00 P.M.  If you get an answering machine, please leave your name & number & he will return call.    Ken
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 12th, 2004 at 9:58am
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thank you
  
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Reply #5 - Oct 13th, 2004 at 9:52am
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I spoke with Steve Earle last about his new roller trigger. His question was, how light should this trigger be able to be adjusted to ??  Some feel 5-6 oz. is enough but there are others who feel 3 oz. would be better. Steve feels that under perfect conditions, the trigger could be adjusted to 1 oz. However, there is a safety factor to be considered so he doesn't want to have the trigger to light. We are interested in feedback and all suggestions will be appreciated.   

Ken    kenhurst1@earthlink.net
  
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Reply #6 - Oct 13th, 2004 at 1:13pm
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Hey Ken.  Personally, I like to feel the trigger before it breaks, and have trouble feeling very light set triggers.  For me, an adjustment range of 4-8 oz. set would be about ideal.   

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Reply #7 - Oct 13th, 2004 at 1:55pm
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Hey there Mr. Greg --- I believe Steve will set it for you at whatever oz. pull you wish. I will recomend to him to do so ad lock it down with loctite. 

Can't wait to see the marvelous stocking job you did on my 16' , 94 Win.  As soon as I get the stock finished, I will return same to you for one of your class checkering jobs. While I am finishing the stock, I am going to gold border the edges of the frame, engrave a tasteful amount of scroll and inlay a gold bobcat on one side and a gold fox on the other. Will send you a few goood pictures of it when finished.   ken
  
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Reply #8 - Oct 13th, 2004 at 3:23pm
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Gosh!

A 16' Model 94? I can't wait to see that!

Glenn
  
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Reply #9 - Oct 13th, 2004 at 4:18pm
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Yeah guy,  it's called a trapper mod. and is a 30-30.   I see you just posted, why don't you answer your phone ??  I have been calling you.   Ken
  
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Reply #10 - Oct 13th, 2004 at 9:30pm
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Is the single set trigger in any way superior to the double set trigger  or is it the other way arround .

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Reply #11 - Oct 13th, 2004 at 10:18pm
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The old/original single set wasn't very good --- unreliable & sloppy. The dbl. set was far superior.  Steve has designed a single set trigger that will be slop free and still give a 3 oz. trigger pull if you wish to adjust it down that low. Secondly, the trigger will be made of D2 steel and will be heat treated. All parts are machined from stock and NOT CAST.  The trigger will be fitted to your action & must be fitted within .005" of proper placement for maximum benefit. Your hammer must be machined to receive a fly which is also furnished. It would seem that this trigger will be a better trigger as it will be trunion mounted and won't have any lateral movement as a double set does as presently being furnished. The nice thing about the Earle trigger is you can use the same trigger guard without any additional expense.  Call Steve at 781-585-6504 EST after 7:00 PM            Ken
  
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Reply #12 - Oct 14th, 2004 at 9:27pm
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More good news roller shooters ---

After speaking with John King and Richard McKinney today, we will be offering a sporter hammer and breechblock. The enthuiasm of these two guys has encouraged us to put these two items up next for manufacturing. Both John and Richard have an unused set of sporter  triggers and hammers that they will allow Steve to borrow so he can write a program to duplicate them on his CNC mill. They will be made a bit wider so they can be custom fitted to each frame. The hole in the hammer & breechblock will also be smaller so that too can be fitted to the frame. This will allow there to be no lateral slop in the parts. 

Ken    kenhurst1@earthlink.net
  
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Reply #13 - Mar 23rd, 2005 at 9:02pm
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Hi Ken
I am new to this board. just found it. This is a very interesting topic , but it seems to have died. Is there any new info on this? Would a Pedersoli rb be a candidate for  a sst?
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Reply #14 - Mar 23rd, 2005 at 9:47pm
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Hi Kip ----   no, the pedersoli rifles have a brass trigger guard and these triggers will require a steel one. I also believe the Ped. rollers are a bit off dimentionaly from American made rollers.  At any rate, Steve is so busy trying making the new Wesson action that it will be a while before he will be able to think about triggers. The Wesson action has gone way over the expected orders and he is about 63/54 backordered now. They will be made but only after the Wesson orders slow down.   Ken
  
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Re: roller singlw set trigger
Reply #15 - Mar 26th, 2005 at 7:38am
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not all Pedersoli RB's have brass trigger guards. mine have steel. I too am waiting to see if the SST can be developed for the Pedersoli's. I would be really happy to have a DST become available 

if a person happens to have a brass one though, this gentleman sells steel ones for a very reasonable price

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Reply #16 - Mar 26th, 2005 at 7:45am
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Dosen't the Col. Bodine model Rolling Block have a DST. Would it be available as a replacment part.   Leadball
  
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Reply #17 - Mar 26th, 2005 at 7:59am
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As far as I know, no. I have even spoke to the folks over in Italy about that very issue and got nowhere. I have 3 Ped RB's that I bought from Cabelas at really good prices that need trigger jobs/set triggers. The pull weight is measured in tonnage instead of poundage. I will work on the springs or send them to a 'smith to be worked on.
  
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Re: roller single set trigger
Reply #18 - Mar 26th, 2005 at 12:19pm
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I have talked to the folks at Navy Arms a couple of times about replacement parts that  could be used for upgrades (for various of the arms they sell) and they don't seem to get a whole lot of excess parts in except for the ones needed to maintain warrantee service on what they sell.  It seems the folks in Italy aren't really too anxious to send a bunch of parts when they can more profitably sell more guns, IMO.  I agree that a  good set trigger would do wonders for the average roller's shootability, but this particular route may not be open at this time. Sad

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Re: roller block & trigger
Reply #19 - Mar 28th, 2005 at 11:44am
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In the thread on the SST for a rolling block there is a note on a sporter block and hammer coming. For dumb guys like me a little help on what a sporter is would be nice. I'm interested because I have a 1 1/2 action (butt stock and action but no barrel of forearm) that is rimfire and if I can ever figure out what to chamber it for I want to barrel it. Are sporters 1 1/2 actioned rifles? Or what? If I can get a center fire block it'd be a lot easier than modifying a rim fire block to center fire. Would these blocks fit my action (with fitting)? Would they have the nicer / smaller thumb tabs of the 1 1/2?

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More good news roller shooters ---

After speaking with John King and Richard McKinney today, we will be offering a sporter hammer and breechblock. The enthuiasm of these two guys has encouraged us to put these two items up next for manufacturing. Both John and Richard have an unused set of sporter  triggers and hammers that they will allow Steve to borrow so he can write a program to duplicate them on his CNC mill. They will be made a bit wider so they can be custom fitted to each frame. The hole in the hammer & breechblock will also be smaller so that too can be fitted to the frame. This will allow there to be no lateral slop in the parts. 

Ken    kenhurst1@earthlink.net

  
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Reply #20 - Mar 28th, 2005 at 5:03pm
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The 1 1/2 roller action is merely a #1 action that has had the sides thinned. The sporter hammer & breechblock ARE forthcoming in the future and will have all the refinements of the origional pieces BUT, they will bw better made. Steve will start programing screws from my #5 roller this week. He will offer replacement screws that are far superior in fit & finish than are now available & will also offer screws with elongated heads so that they can be corrolated <SP> and new slots cut for those who appreciate the better things. These will be followed up with Win. screws for the walls.    Ken
  
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Reply #21 - Mar 31st, 2005 at 1:59pm
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Ken,  If your were interested in improving over the D2, you could use M2 or M50, then after hardening and tempering, you could get then nitrided.  These would be harder and more slippery.  You would have to be careful regarding (specifing and doing) the nitriding as there are several systems and only two would produce the proper composition & structure nitrides.  You could also toughen the steel by over tempering the M50 before nitriding.  If you'd like more input regarding steel selection and processing, contact me at tkwiecinski@stanadyne.com.  I could get some small quantities done for you.  Tim K
  
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Reply #22 - Mar 31st, 2005 at 5:28pm
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Thanks Mr. Tim,   I'l be in touch.   Ken
  
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Reply #23 - Mar 31st, 2005 at 7:11pm
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   Navy Arms sells a Rolling Block [made by Pedersoli] that has Double-set triggers refered to as the Col. Bodine Model. They are good triggers with a steel finger guard. I would think that these triggers and finger-guard could be bought from Navy Arms or Pedersoli.   leadball
  
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