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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4089 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	38-70 High Wall Yesterday at 7:16pm	Print Post
	I got the BACO brass today and it fits perfectly. I swapped out the buttstock for another and cobbled together some ammo to fireform the cases. Dies are very expensive, $265 for a 3 die set or $135 for a sizing die. I was able to use a 38-55 expander and my 40-65 seating die to load up some 248 gr hard cast bullets I had acquired from Bob Zimmermans's estate. Here is a comparison of the 38-70 vs a 38-55. Jack

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18341 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: 38-70 High Wall Reply #1 - yesterday at 7:35pm	Print Post
	Put a rust blue job on that barrel and it will be a really great looking rifle!

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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2720 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: 38-70 High Wall Reply #2 - yesterday at 7:39pm	Print Post
	Are you going to chronograph those bullets? I'll bet they have a little pepper in them!


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4089 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: 38-70 High Wall Reply #3 - yesterday at 8:18pm	Print Post
	I only used 17GR of 4759 for this load. I am hoping my 38 Saeco bullets that I use for 38-55 BP will work once the brass is fired. I do not size my 38-55 once fired, just use a home made 'expander' to even out the case mouths for a slip fit with the Saeco bullets. The stock is kind of rough but rare. I bought it from Joe Dobrynski on eBay.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12608 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 38-70 High Wall Reply #4 - yesterday at 9:40pm	Print Post
	You can always breech seat it Jack.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4089 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: 38-70 High Wall Reply #5 - yesterday at 9:48pm	Print Post
	That is a plan. One of the fired cases will end up on a seater. My Hoch tapered bullets can’t be used for fixed smokeless since they fall into the case. I don’t have a way to size the brass right now.

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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2144 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: 38-70 High Wall Reply #6 - yesterday at 10:23pm	Print Post
	I built a 38-72 on a Borchardt action and yes dies and brass are very expensive. Haven't shot it much but it shoots good and all my brass are formed now. JMH


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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1855 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: 38-70 High Wall Reply #7 - yesterday at 10:31pm	Print Post
	Wow! I wonder how that stock got separated from that rifle and ended up with Joe D. It sure looks like it came from that Jeffrey high wall. You can see the insert in the bottom of the stock where the tip of the lever fits as it's closed. Very curious..


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12608 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 38-70 High Wall Reply #8 - yesterday at 10:51pm	Print Post
	Jack, your lathe. Make a neck sizing die on your lathe.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4089 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: 38-70 High Wall Reply #9 - yesterday at 11:30pm	Print Post
	I don't think I am going to need one. I just ran two cases that were oversized in the neck into a 32-40 sizing die about 1/2" and it sized them down fine. Ran them into a 38-55 M die and they fit perfectly. No lathe was harmed in the making of this post!

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12608 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 38-70 High Wall Reply #10 - yesterday at 11:32pm	Print Post
	What is a M die?

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Otony Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 340 Location: Bandon, Oregon Joined: Jun 5^th, 2021	Re: 38-70 High Wall Reply #11 - Today at 3:02am	Print Post
	westerner wrote yesterday at 11:32pm: What is a M die? Lyman M-die, neck expanding die

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