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Sep 17th, 2026 at 8:50pm
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Any reason to not use Acraglass to attach a piece of broken stock back on?   

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Re: Stock repair
Reply #1 - Sep 17th, 2026 at 9:06pm
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Not the Pope, I hope.

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Re: Stock repair
Reply #2 - Sep 17th, 2026 at 9:56pm
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It depends on the size and location of the break but generally speaking Acraglass and Bondo are poor choices for repairs that will be seen. I can tell you more if I have more information.
  
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Re: Stock repair
Reply #3 - Sep 17th, 2026 at 10:33pm
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Acraglas dyed black can be almost invisible if the mend line is clean with no large crack.  The black looks like dark grain lines, and if the break follows the grain, it is even harder to tell it isn’t natural.  Brown dyed Acraglas on the other hand usually looks out of place.
  
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Re: Stock repair
Reply #4 - Sep 17th, 2026 at 10:38pm
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I was going to wait until I tried my repair but here goes.  First is the photo that I was shown of the toe crack on the Pope.  I just looked closely at the photo in the Hartford Pope book that was taken in 2000 and the crack is slightly visible.

Here is what it looked like when it arrived.

There was also evidence of rust all around the joint between the buttplate and the stock.
  

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Reply #5 - Sep 17th, 2026 at 10:43pm
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The seller indicated that the screws would not turn and left them alone.  Wanting to see the extent of the rust and not being able to remove the upper tang screw either, I thought maybe there was a through bolt.  
When I finally got the lower buttplate screw to turn, the large piece broke off.  Looking at the break, it appears it was only attached in the forward circled section.  Massive amounts of rust had destroyed the screw which probably caused it to swell and caused the crack.  The upper buttplate screw had to have the head drilled out.
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Reply #6 - Sep 17th, 2026 at 10:48pm
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The rust was also under the top tang and there is evidence that the top of that tang has been cleaned.  Too bad nobody addressed this issue back when it happened.  
I would be up for having a professional repair if it were reasonable, say under $200.  

What are your thoughts.

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Reply #7 - Sep 17th, 2026 at 10:57pm
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The tang cleaned up OK.  Luckily none of the other internal parts showed any evidence of rust.
  

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Re: Stock repair
Reply #8 - Sep 18th, 2026 at 11:23am
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I've used Acraglass numerous times for a repair like this. I prefer to dye the Acraglass darker than the wood, but not black. Get a bunch of strong rubber bands to put over the whole buttstock to keep pressure on the broken piece as it cures. Also mask off adjoining areas next to the repair so nothing gets on other adjacent wood surfaces.
  

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Reply #9 - Sep 18th, 2026 at 11:40am
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You probably will need to clean the cracked area with acetone to remove oil from the wood before gluing.  If the pieces fit together tightly, I’ve had good success with thin superglue for areas that don’t have a lot of stress. The thick superglue doesn’t soak into the pores of the wood like the thin variety does.
  
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Reply #10 - Sep 18th, 2026 at 12:06pm
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I hate to say this out loud but it looks to me like what I have seen on a couple of Browning firearm from the infamous "salt wood" era(1966-1972).  You can do a Google search and see what I'm referring to but in a nutshell some genius decided that the drying/curing of this walnut could be expedited using salt water. The damage always started at the wood metal interface and works it's way out. I sure hope I'm wrong. 
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Reply #11 - Sep 18th, 2026 at 12:13pm
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I have made repairs such as yours. If there isn't a gap to be filled then I have had good success using Tightbond wood glue. If there is a gap that needs to be addressed then either Brownell's Acragalss or a Acragel. I would use a Qtip with paste wax and coat the area around the crack that doesn't need to be glued to help with cleanup. If using Acraglass or Acuragel I wait until it sets up but not 100% hard and trim the excess with a sharp razor blade. Once set up hard it is like a rock.
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Reply #12 - Sep 18th, 2026 at 12:48pm
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Thanks for all the suggestions. Keep them coming. For the interim, I am going to replace the stock, most likely with a straight grip one and associated internal parts giving it a SST so I can shoot it while pondering my next steps. I doubt that the crack can be completely closed and I am OK with that as long as the repaired area is strong. Somebody the black wood is rotten I think. 
From the extent of the rust and the fact there is evidence that the top of the upper tang had rusted at one time but was cleaned before any significant pitting occurred it is most likely this rifle suffered water damage years ago and was neglected since.
  

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Reply #13 - Sep 18th, 2026 at 1:58pm
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To make that repair as aesthetic as I could, I'd do it with dyed acraglass.  As someone else said, clean with acetone to remove oils.  Pre-fit the piece, remove minor amounts of wood from the interior as needed to close up the crack as well as you can, if splinters or loose pieces are holding it open.  

Set up your clamping system ahead of time and make sure it works BEFORE you get epoxy on the pieces.  I use a combination of C clamps, F Clamps, rubber hose stretched and wrapped around the stock, and spring clamps.  Whatever works.  You can put masking tape an eighth inch away from the edges to keep epoxy from smearing onto the wood.

When it comes to the actual acraglass repair, I would mix 2 or 3 different batches of brown/red/black dyed epoxy.  Try to have all 3 darker than the wood, and more toward black than red/brown.  Then swirl the 3 together slightly on a glass plate, and use a knife blade to scrape up a dab at a time, smear thinly on the wood on both sides.  Especially along the edges, mix and match the different colors so it varies continuously along the length of the crack.  Get full coverage well adhered to the entire wood surface on both pieces before putting the broken piece back in place.  

Clamp, and use a blade to scrape off what oozes out of the crack.  Wait 10 minutes, and come back and check it again.  If any shrinks back into the crack, refill flush with the surface.  Sometimes the epoxy runs and you have to relevel it several times before it finally sets.

When it is just about fully set, but still slightly soft, I use a sharp razor blade to cut it all off flush with the surface.  Let dry fully for several days and then lightly sand smooth and apply a bit of finish to touch up if needed.
  
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Re: Stock repair
Reply #14 - Sep 18th, 2026 at 3:04pm
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Dave, what do you use for dye besides the brown and black Acraglass ones?

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