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black powder duplex surprise
Yesterday at 3:42pm
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After the recent black powder threads here I decided to put the 38-55 barrel back on my CPA and see how I could get it to shoot.  I decided to try a duplex load as I'd only once tried it many years ago in a Pedersoli Sharps and remember being generally unimpressed.

Today I loaded two different loads.  One set with 50.1gr Goex Fg ( what used to work well at 200 in this rifle ) and another with 6gr of Reloder 7 and 41gr of Goex Fg.

The Goex Fg loads averaged about 1250fps.  The duplex ones were about 300 fps higher, averaging 1550 fps!!  I only took 2 shots of that load and shot the rest off as blanks because I don't want that much recoil/velocity in the 38-55.  I expected maybe a 100 fps increase not 300!

I might try again with 3 or 4 gr of Reloder 7 at some point. 

Chris.
  
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Reply #1 - yesterday at 5:28pm
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Regarding duplex loads, what I've read and from my experience is that most hold to 10% of the BP.  This part is solely from my experience with double rifles, mostly and a bit with single shots.  I have never needed more than 5% to achieve what I wanted.  My first experience was with an E. Goldmann German double rifle from the 1870's in 11.15 X 60R.  After 6 months of  juggling bullets and powder charges and granulations I simply could not generate enough velocity to get the barrels to regulate.  5 grs. of SR-4759 under 67 grs. of Schuetzen Ffg finally brought them together and it shoots exceptionally clean as well as quite accurate for a 150 year old rifle, + or - .  I had similar results with an E.M. Reilly double in 500 BPE.

In single shots the two cartridges were a 45-100, (2.6) and a 45-120, again using SR-4759.  At that time I didn't know as much about fouling control as I do now and ended up duplexing both cartridges with 5% of the BP charge with satisfactory results.

So, yeah.  Back off to that 4 grs. and see how she does.  I hope you're pleasantly surprised.

And I sure wish they'd bring back SR-4759.
  
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Reply #2 - yesterday at 8:14pm
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Try using a substantially slower powder burn rate for your kicker.  The slower powder will reduce the velocity but still clean up the burn.
  
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