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Reputable stock carving(?)
Aug 6th, 2026 at 3:40pm
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I had CPA cut 3 forends for me in the past and they did excellent work. Based on a current thread regarding stocks, that excellence may have faded. 
My dilemma-
I have a stock blank set with wonderful figure I want/need cut for a lowwall and my initial choice was CPA. 
If the wood gets carved wrong, there is no do over and it’s unique qualities are gone forever.
With others having issues with them, who is a good choice for a stockmaker?
Thanks, Richard
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 3:45pm
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I have had no problems with Treebone. 
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Reply #2 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 5:47pm
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cellargun wrote on Aug 6th, 2026 at 3:40pm:
I had CPA cut 3 forends for me in the past and they did excellent work. Based on a current thread regarding stocks, that excellence may have faded. 
My dilemma-
I have a stock blank set with wonderful figure I want/need cut for a lowwall and my initial choice was CPA. 
If the wood gets carved wrong, there is no do over and it’s unique qualities are gone forever.
With others having issues with them, who is a good choice for a stockmaker?
Thanks, Richard


CG, I just measured the Cody Ballard action I am trying to install the CPA Pope stock to. It is about an eighth of and inch bigger than most of my Ballards. 

I have used CPA stocks before with no problems. I think it's a good idea to send your action and wood to CPA, have them carve your wood and fit it to the action. Will be worth the extra cost. And if you're as lazy as I am have them install the buttplate and do the finish.
  

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Reply #3 - Aug 7th, 2026 at 3:04am
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+1 on Treebone Carving. A little pricey but well worth the extra $. George is great to deal with and you'll always end up with better wood than you expected. Also, the stocks are very close to being fully inletted and the exterior requires very little shaping.

He will also use your wood to carve the stock of your choice. 

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Reply #4 - Aug 7th, 2026 at 7:36am
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CPA has done all my Single Shot stock work with good results. They supplied the wood. I’ve stocked a few muzzle loaders not my shops usual job.

I turn a lot of bowls, have for many years some highly figured. Last winter think the count was 3 dozen plus sold in local shows or given away Figured wood can be sorted by appearance in a block but you never know for sure until you start cutting. Bowls with faults can be saved with CA glue sometimes not always. Often the bowls intended size needs to be reduced to accommodate flaws. And some buyers like mixed grain, sap and heart, solid knots, and even holes in the finished job. There’s no accounting for taste.

With gunstocks the professional shaper, using his wood, will most often correct hidden problems by starting over with a new blank . Customer supplied another matter, he was not involved in the selection or care of blanks as they dry. Doubt if many will accept responsibility for supplied wood defects. Even if he did how’s he going to solve it. Fixing with Glue not acceptable most gun stocks, replacing wood may or may not satisfy the customer. When we judge a gunmaker’s excellence best use work completely under his control.

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Reply #5 - Aug 7th, 2026 at 9:40am
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JerryH wrote on Aug 7th, 2026 at 3:04am:
+1 on Treebone Carving. A little pricey but well worth the extra $. George is great to deal with and you'll always end up with better wood than you expected. Also, the stocks are very close to being fully inletted and the exterior requires very little shaping.

He will also use your wood to carve the stock of your choice. 

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Same here. Never been disappointed with George's work, and very easy to do the final finish work on his stocks.
  

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Reply #6 - Aug 7th, 2026 at 11:08am
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George always refuses to carve my wood.   
  

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Reply #7 - Aug 7th, 2026 at 11:42am
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westerner wrote on Aug 7th, 2026 at 11:08am:
George always refuses to carve my wood.  


George has carved my wood, but always warns me that if there are defects it's tough luck. And he doesn't like boring Ballard stocks for the through bolt, or inletting for the tang.
  

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Reply #8 - Aug 7th, 2026 at 3:05pm
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There's also a guy in north central Pennsylvania named Sean Rowland who has a pantograph, many patterns, and the skill to use them. Not to mention the keen eye and true hands to do it the old fashioned way, by hand from a blank, if that's what you prefer. I would (and have recently) have him do my stock work before I'd consider CPA ever again. 

You can view his work on his Facebook page.
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 9th, 2026 at 10:45am
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I used Brian Board for stock making. Most of his work is restoring model 70 Winchesters. I had him do a Steven Favorite with some fancy wood, looks great but it cost $800.
  

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Reply #10 - Aug 9th, 2026 at 12:01pm
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I’m not sure how anyone makes a living doing stock work.  Short story: My boss at my day job saw a stock I did for a Rolling Block.  He asked if I could do one for one of his rifles.  After seeing what a fancy piece of Walnut or Maple costs, he said he would be happy with the piece of plain Walnut I have in the shop.  He asked how long it would take, and I told him 6-8 weekends.  He wanted it done faster and told me to do it during work hours (we were in the slow season and he’s the owner).  I told him it would still take 6-8 weeks since the finish requires time to cure.  Our CFO overheard him and told him he would have to pay my billable hours to the company at my consulting rate.  6-8 weekends is roughly 100 hours of work.  Not really since I don’t spend full days working in the shop, but you get the idea.  I’m not sure what a stock maker charges per hour, but my consulting rate is $200/hr (that’s what the company makes, not what I make).  That would make the stock $20,000 before materials.    Either stock makers are super fast, or only charge minimum wage for their time.
  
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Reply #11 - Aug 9th, 2026 at 1:42pm
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I prefer to work from a blank because every time I use a pre-carved I end up spending much time correcting errors.

I don’t usually record the time it takes to make and finish a stock but did on this one.  It took 63.5 hours total.  But, 20 hours of that was straightening out the error made in their shaping the buttplate inletting, while I fitted it.   
I could do one from a blank in probably the same amount of time, maybe less, and with less frustration.
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Reply #12 - Aug 9th, 2026 at 2:05pm
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Ohh Brother.

If someone wants to take a close look at the beautiful rifle, do you make them wear a bib so they don't drool on it..

Exquisite... !

So if I might ask, what is the final coat, oil or poly..?




bobw wrote on Aug 9th, 2026 at 1:42pm:
I prefer to work from a blank because every time I use a pre-carved I end up spending much time correcting errors.

I don’t usually record the time it takes to make and finish a stock but did on this one.  It took 63.5 hours total.  But, 20 hours of that was straightening out the error made in their shaping the buttplate inletting, while I fitted it.  
I could do one from a blank in probably the same amount of time, maybe less, and with less frustration.
Bob

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Reply #13 - Aug 9th, 2026 at 3:53pm
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I had one done by Wenig in Lincoln MO about 20 years ago. I drove there with my pattern and they asked me what I wanted to spend, I told them and we went to the pallets and pallets of appropriately priced wood and started digging until I found a couple blanks that I liked. They said they would cut my stock .030" larger than my pattern so I didn't have too much work. They bored the hole for the thru bolt 5/16" like I asked instead of the 1/2" hole some places give you. My new stock arrived along with my pattern about 10 days later. Excellent work. I have heard that they are pretty pricy these days. Can't say
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 9th, 2026 at 5:04pm
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RJ-35-40 wrote on Aug 9th, 2026 at 2:05pm:
Ohh Brother.

If someone wants to take a close look at the beautiful rifle, do you make them wear a bib so they don't drool on it..

Exquisite... !

So if I might ask, what is the final coat, oil or poly..?




bobw wrote on Aug 9th, 2026 at 1:42pm:
I prefer to work from a blank because every time I use a pre-carved I end up spending much time correcting errors.

I don’t usually record the time it takes to make and finish a stock but did on this one.  It took 63.5 hours total.  But, 20 hours of that was straightening out the error made in their shaping the buttplate inletting, while I fitted it.  
I could do one from a blank in probably the same amount of time, maybe less, and with less frustration.
Bob




100% oil finish, through the last coat.
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