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How do you mill round to octagon???
Jul 17th, 2026 at 8:49am
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I've done a few round to octagon machining. With 1" flats I've always done it on the mill with the side of the cutter. But on this next project I'm thinking about using a Fly-Cutter and milling from the top. This would allow the barrel to sit flat on the table for extreme rigidity. Yes/No? 
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Re: How do you mill round to octagon???
Reply #1 - Jul 17th, 2026 at 9:08am
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I need to add one of these machines to the shop! (Shiloh Rifle)...
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Re: How do you mill round to octagon???
Reply #2 - Jul 17th, 2026 at 9:11am
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I side mill them clamped down to the table. I've found that draw filing them is easier with a side mill finish than with a rotary mill finish.
  
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Reply #3 - Jul 17th, 2026 at 10:23am
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Thank you!
  

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Re: How do you mill round to octagon???
Reply #4 - Jul 17th, 2026 at 10:26am
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I used to do it held by my rotary index and a center with a support half way. I used the 90° attachment on the Bridgeport and a 2" spiral milling cutter and did it from the top. The set up makes it lots easier to taper and do a half round, half octogon leaving a nice transition radius between the round and octogon. The set-up also leaves the barrel in alignment  to mill raised sight ramps and  base (s) when material was left on the correct spots for fancy work. As one other poster said if nothing else it is easier to draw file the flats when the machine marks are not a spiral on the flat.
 
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Re: How do you mill round to octagon???
Reply #5 - Jul 17th, 2026 at 11:49am
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The hard way if you do not have a rotary indexer. Three identical "V" blocks, a bar clamped to the table aligned straight or taper as required.
Barrel clamped in "V" blocks against the bar, side cut mill. Three "V" blocks allows movement of one block if required for clearance.
Rotate barrel, flat against "V" block and repeat. Slow process but will get it done very accurately.
Fixed bar allows movement of barrel if table travel is less than barrel length.
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Reply #6 - Jul 17th, 2026 at 1:23pm
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All good suggestions. Thank you. This barrel will be a Octagon to Round...Only 13" of a 30" barrel will be octagon and no transition at the receiver end. Octagon right up against the receiver.
  

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Reply #7 - Jul 17th, 2026 at 6:52pm
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My setup for octagons.
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Reply #8 - Jul 17th, 2026 at 9:16pm
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5C collet spin indexers work.  Two aren’t necessary.  One end can be held by a center, but that is less ridged.  I usually put down paper towels over the ways because it is going to make a TON of chips.  Second picture is a couple light passes worth of chips.  At least the chips that didn’t end up on the floor, walls, ceiling, and everywhere else. Grin
  
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Re: How do you mill round to octagon???
Reply #9 - Jul 17th, 2026 at 11:13pm
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There's a way to do it in a lathe, I think the term is 'whirling'.

Internal toothed cutter, diameter and the RPM of both calculated to make whatever number of flats you want.

Or a large diameter on the OD? And the threads cut with an internal?

NOT exactly practical for anything other than mass production ... which is now done by 'heading', a 'forging' operation.

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Reply #10 - Jul 18th, 2026 at 1:38pm
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RoyB wrote on Jul 17th, 2026 at 9:08am:
I need to add one of these machines to the shop! (Shiloh Rifle)...
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Just one? Smiley
  
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Re: How do you mill round to octagon???
Reply #11 - Jul 19th, 2026 at 9:41am
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RoyB wrote on Jul 17th, 2026 at 9:08am:
I need to add one of these machines to the shop! (Shiloh Rifle)...
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I hope someone remembers to get that vise grip out of there before turning it on. I bet that cutter is pricey.
  

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