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Light primer strike
Jul 12th, 2026 at 6:53pm
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I’ve got a .300 Rook with a light primer strike. Maybe one in six fail to fire on the first try. This is small rifle. I’m using CCI. Any thoughts on a different primer that might be more sensitive before I address modification?
  
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Re: Light primer strike
Reply #1 - Jul 12th, 2026 at 7:16pm
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If you are using CCI small rifle why not use CCI small pistol? Any small pistol primer should be more sensitive except maybe the special Remington 5 1/2 small pistol. It is a pistol load even if you shoot it in a rifle. I use Federal small pistol in my 300 Rook.
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 12th, 2026 at 7:19pm
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Which CCI?
The 400 has a thinner cup than the 450 or BR.

Most non magnum small rifle are identical to pistol magnum.

If I have a rifle that I’m worried about pressure or setting off the primer, I use Remington 1 1/2 small pistol. They are probably the softest primer on the market and will show pressure signs much sooner.
  
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Reply #3 - Jul 12th, 2026 at 7:22pm
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Pistol primers are shorter thus making for a lighter strike, but I’ll experiment and share my results. 
Thank you.
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 12th, 2026 at 7:26pm
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Statesrights wrote on Jul 12th, 2026 at 7:22pm:
Pistol primers are shorter thus making for a lighter strike, but I’ll experiment and share my results. 
Thank you.

Sorry, I thought you were using small rifle primers.
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Re: Light primer strike
Reply #5 - Jul 12th, 2026 at 7:59pm
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Just tried a dozen Remington SR 1 1/2s. All fired! Good news!
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Reply #6 - Jul 12th, 2026 at 8:00pm
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Correction. Small pistol 1 1/2.
  
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Reply #7 - Jul 12th, 2026 at 8:26pm
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Statesrights wrote on Jul 12th, 2026 at 7:22pm:
Pistol primers are shorter thus making for a lighter strike, but I’ll experiment and share my results. 
Thank you.


Small Pistol and Small Rifle primers are the same size.
  
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Re: Light primer strike
Reply #8 - Jul 12th, 2026 at 9:48pm
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Statesrights, if you made your cases from Starline .32-20 brass like I do for my .310 cadets. Starline makes them with small pistol size primer pockets. I use the Remington 1 1/2's in my cadets
  
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Re: Light primer strike
Reply #9 - Jul 12th, 2026 at 10:13pm
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1Hawkeye wrote on Jul 12th, 2026 at 9:48pm:
Statesrights, if you made your cases from Starline .32-20 brass like I do for my .310 cadets. Starline makes them with small pistol size primer pockets. I use the Remington 1 1/2's in my cadets


Small Pistol and Small Rifle primers are the same size.


I’ll say this over and over because it’s true, and this old wives tale about small pistol and rifle primers being different sizes is one of the most common BS stories in the gun world.
  
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Re: Light primer strike
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Thank you. I learned!
  
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Statesrights wrote on Jul 12th, 2026 at 7:59pm:
Just tried a dozen Remington SR 1 1/2s. All fired! Good news!
Thank you.

Glad that worked out.

Only thing to keep in mind is that the primers are so soft, they can cause the action to be sticky. 
If the firing pin is loose at all, the cup can flow into and around the firing pin and hole. Don’t fight it, just dry fire to push the primer back into the case.
  
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1Hawkeye wrote on Jul 12th, 2026 at 9:48pm:
Statesrights, if you made your cases from Starline .32-20 brass like I do for my .310 cadets. Starline makes them with small pistol size primer pockets. I use the Remington 1 1/2's in my cadets


I don’t believe the 32-20 brass will work for the 300 rook.
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Re: Light primer strike
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"I don’t believe the 32-20 brass will work for the 300 rook.
Bob"


Agreed.  If it's a true Rook chamber the head on a Rook is .319-.320.  The 32-20 brass has a head dia of .350-.353 depending on make.  IT can be swaged, the primer pocket will need to be clean up afterwards.  The 32-20 has a thicker and larger rim but that can be turned.
Dabbled with this a tiny bit for a WR in my mess.  It wasn't anything spectacular so it found a new barrel and chambered it for a 32-20, shoots very well now.
  

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Re: Light primer strike
Reply #14 - yesterday at 1:46pm
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In my far distant past before the age of the internet, my 300 Rook Martini needed brass and the optimum solution then, maybe the only, was to run a 32 Long Colt reamer in. That brass was easily available back then and it last forever. It must be quite similar to the original brass except that it used a larger diameter bullet but the bullet was heeled and the heel was the proper size. Add a mould for a .301 bullet and Bob's your uncle. Here's my Rook.
  
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Re: Light primer strike
Reply #15 - yesterday at 2:15pm
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Conventional wisdom on primers when I was a student at a couple of gunsmithing schools was this:

Hardest primer cups was always CCI
Softest cups was always Federal
Winchester and REM fell in between

That when building comp revolvers you could back off on mainspring weight a few oz's for Federals so these were the go-to primers for most match play

Just as important was to insure your primers were completely seated in the primer pockets so that the primer wasn't being chased/pushed by the firing pin. The trick is full seat but never crush as this will disturb the primer anvil and affect performance. It's been years since I was in these schools so perhaps cup strength has changed but I don't think much. I talk with Gunsmiths Ron Power and Hamilton Bowen occasionally and they say this is still sound advice

Rick
  
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