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Reloading the 38-55/35-30 Maynard 73.
May 21st, 2026 at 7:29pm
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I started by taking brand new Winchester 38-55 brass and running it into a full length sizer to get everything normalized. It turns out that this gives a loose slip fit to my 175 and 200 grain bullets for my 9.3x57R (360) rifles which just happen to be sized to just over .367 which is the groove diameter of this Maynard. Next I primed the brass with some Remington LP primers. I tested one by firing the primer by itself. Oh, I forgot to add a critical thing. Being a 73, I had to have a way to chamber a 38-55 case and bring it out to the proper length to seal the chamber. Just so happens that along with the rifle I receiver some very nice turned brass washer like adapters designed for that purpose which support and surround the rim of the case at the proper headspace distance and give something for the extractor to grab onto. Worked like a champ. Next added some 4227 powder in the reasonable 14 grain range. Using the old drop the bullet down the chamber method and measuring from the base of the bullet to the face of the cartridge adapter gave me a maximum OAL. With the 175 grain bullet this allowed the bullet's generous base and one grease groove in the neck and with the 200 it was 2 bands and grease grooves. Now we are back to the problem of a .367 bullet loosely slip fit in a 38-55 case neck. I needed a crimp and with much trial and thought pulled out a 9.3x57 Mauser FL sizer and removed the guts. This sizer really squishes down the neck before it is pulled back over the ball. Without the guts it can be adjusted to a length where the 38-55 case neck just, just, enters the neck squishing portion off the die giving a beautiful light roll crimp to the case which adds tension and keeps the bullet from going any deeper into the the case. Now to the range.
  
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Reply #1 - May 21st, 2026 at 7:32pm
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Awesome. Sometimes it helps to have 60 or so different die sets.   Cool
  
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Reply #2 - May 22nd, 2026 at 2:24pm
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Here's a loaded round in its adapter. Did I mention that the bullets are courtesy of Accurate moulds? There is just a hint of the rolled crimp showing the keeps the bullet from slipping any more into the case.
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Re: Reloading the 38-55/35-30 Maynard 73.
Reply #3 - May 22nd, 2026 at 3:34pm
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jimmy wrote on May 21st, 2026 at 7:32pm:
Awesome. Sometimes it helps to have 60 or so different die sets.   Cool


Yes, lol.
  

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Reply #4 - Jun 8th, 2026 at 5:24pm
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Finally got out to the range this morning to try out some of my test loads. Learned a few things. The slip on 73 rings worked great except for one little problem. They really want a thicker rim on the case. The Q and D work around for this was to thumb press the firing pin to fully seat the case so the firing pin wouldn't have to do it. Another thing was that the 4227 wanted to be at or near the back of the case. A few taps of a vertical case on the side of the action and careful loading into the chamber took care of this. Perhaps 4759 would be less sensitive to this or I might have to resort to a carefully added tuft of kapok (just above but not on the powder) to keep the powder in the vicinity of the primer without extra effort. Anyway, the tap down/careful loading with firing pin pressure gave good results with the 200 grain 9.3x57R bullet and 18 grains of 4227 with just over 1650 fps and ES of 20. Still need a little lateral adjustment of that odd tang sight and refinement of the vertical and a little tightening of that as it tends to slide up and down a bit. The pointy little ivory bit on the front sight will show up best on a large black bull for next time. I'm thinking that a little loop of thin wire in the recess for the rim in the slip on rings or around the base of the case just above the rim would eliminate the firing pin push down. Another thing to work on.
  
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Re: Reloading the 38-55/35-30 Maynard 73.
Reply #5 - Jun 8th, 2026 at 8:07pm
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It sounds as if the cartridge rim was cut too deep in the adapter ring. Pushing the case forward helps the firing pin strike but doesn't help the excessive headspace.
If you have a lathe, the rings are easy to make and you really only need one or two for each rifle.
After you turn the ring thickness to get a nice firm closure of the action, a 38-55 chamber reamer makes quick work of fitting the cartridge to just below the back edge.
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Reply #6 - Jun 9th, 2026 at 12:31am
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Yes, I suspect the rings were intended for a slightly larger case with a slightly thicker rim. Unfortunately, I don't have a lathe.
  
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Reply #7 - yesterday at 5:54pm
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Got back out to the range this morning with ammo loaded with various amounts of 4227 and the perfect new pair of adapter rings made for me by a list member. Main effort was to see which load of 4227 would work the best and to adjust the front sight for close to center windage for the loads that looked the best and to get adjustments for the sliding tang sight for 50 and 100 yards. Most of that was accomplished but again high variations in velocity were noted and it looks like I will have to resort to changes in powder or primer or a better method of keeping the powder back by the primer. That said, 17 to 18 grains of 4227 looked like it could be good. This is a velocity range of 1150 to 1350 fps. Slower speeds tended to tilt and higher ones tended to be slightly felt by the action.The front sight has an insert of possibly ivory that has kind of become a little frazzled in the last 153 years and putting it consistently in a bull at 100 yards sometimes becomes a bit of a guess. Adjusting the position of the front sight in its dovetail where it had been for a long time eventually required a good wallop from my Wyoming sight drifter to get it to move and move it did finally and fortunately landing on the ground where it was highly visible. After that, it was easy. The graduated scale I printed and taped to the tang sight worked well and made adjustments repeatable. The Watson tang sight allows very fine adjustments. On to next time! I might add that the Maynard is a super action. Just pop the cartridge in with no worry about all the way as closing the action with the smooth movement of the lever just takes care of everything.
  
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Re: Reloading the 38-55/35-30 Maynard 73.
Reply #8 - Today at 8:33am
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I had those brass rings made up several times. The last batch was made too thin, at .110" thick instead of .135". I found out after I had shipped some out and didn't ship any others. I never got any satisfaction from the manufacturer and I'm stuck with several hundred bad rings. What I came up with is this: I bought a roll of .025" diameter brass wire and place a ring of this around the case before assembling with the ring. If any of you bought the thin rings, let me know and I'll ship you some brass wire. Most of the rings are for the Krag case to make up 40/40 and 40/60 cases. I don't have any for the 30/30 size cases.
  
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