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A 25-20 SS Low Wall
Apr 12th, 2026 at 4:34pm
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A while back I acquired a nice looking little low Wall in a trade with Moody Holler.  It was factory labeled 25 WCF, but it is chambered for what we call the 25-20 SS.  This would suggest that it is a fairly early one, but from the serial number it was made in late 1904 or early ‘05. 

When I got it, we both knew the hammer pivot (split pin) had one leg cracked off and the mainspring screw was stripped, but I had both of those parts in my little parts cabinet because of course I do!  

When a finally remembered (or fumbled through) how to reassemble it, and I replaced the fore end screw with a new one because I lost the original while I had it disassembled, it came out nice.  

In fact, not just nice but as nice as any Winchester wall I’ve owned recently. The receiver and breech block have been polished to the white, but all the other bluing looks very good after 120 years.  The bore is pretty bright… surprisingly so in fact, and even the wood has no major scratches, dents or gouges and the finish is basically intact and strong.   Smiley

I had some 70 year old, very nasty looking factory ammo, and I picked out the worst looking to test it with. I shot it at 25 and 50 yds with unexpectedly good results, even though most of the old brass split upon firing and had to be nudged out with a cleaning rod. (Did I mention I picked the worst looking of the batch for the test firing?)  Wink

By the time I moved to a 100 yd target, I was getting a little tired and so was the rifle, and the ammo I had left in my chosen pile was the worst of the worst.  For some reason, the Buckhorn rear and blade sight wouldn’t hold still. Let’s just say my efforts at 100 yds were less than inspiring.  Roll Eyes

Not surprisingly, out of about 30 rounds I had 4-5 duds and several noticeable slow fires, almost a hang fire but not quite.  Undecided

All in all I’m very pleased with my new acquisition and hope to take it out to Oak Ridge in about 2 weeks for their classic single shot event, along with my trusty 32-40 high wall.

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Re: A 25-20 SS Low Wall
Reply #1 - Apr 12th, 2026 at 4:58pm
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The attendee list Rick sent out Friday did not include your name, Charlie. Maybe you’ve contacted him since then.
  
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Re: A 25-20 SS Low Wall
Reply #2 - Apr 12th, 2026 at 6:05pm
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Yes Jim, I saw your name on the list as I’m still on his mailing list.  I just sent him an e-mail now that I know I’ll have a couple of guns to shoot to make it worth the five hour drive. I hope to hear from him tonight or tomorrow.

On another note, I seem to remember someone posting a few months ago that they had bought a large batch of new 25-20 SS brass.  Does anyone remember who it was and know whether he has any left?

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Re: A 25-20 SS Low Wall
Reply #3 - Apr 12th, 2026 at 6:19pm
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Think it is ssdave and there is a sticky at the top of the reloading forum. 

Sticky post in for sale says it is in a different post.
  
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Re: A 25-20 SS Low Wall
Reply #4 - Apr 12th, 2026 at 6:38pm
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jimmy wrote on Apr 12th, 2026 at 6:19pm:
Think it is ssdave and there is a sticky at the top of the reloading forum. 

Sticky post in for sale says it is in a different post.


I don’t see it there anymore(?)  I wonder whether he sold out and took it down.
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Re: A 25-20 SS Low Wall
Reply #5 - Apr 12th, 2026 at 7:24pm
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Contact ssdave. He’s got it.
  
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Re: A 25-20 SS Low Wall
Reply #6 - Apr 13th, 2026 at 7:18pm
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Yes Froggy, Dave has it and is holding it exclusively for ASSRA members.
  (He also donates a portion to the ASSRA)     Thanks Dave!

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Re: A 25-20 SS Low Wall
Reply #7 - yesterday at 1:10am
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Green Frog,  I replied to your email, not sure why the reply didn't get to you.  Replied to your followup email also.

dave

Here's the link to the ASSRA page with the info on the 25-20ss brass.  It's about halfway down the page:

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Re: A 25-20 SS Low Wall
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Thanks, Dave.  I don’t know why my PMs and e-mails from you didn’t come through.  I hope the letter with the check and your package with brass will do better!

Back on the original topic (and the reason I need some good brass) I ran a quick patch through the bore today and it still showed some black, so I plan to polish the bore with some JB’s and really get it clean. At 111 years old, this little low wall deserves plenty of respect and care… and it doesn’t look a day over 90!  Roll Eyes

I tried to post a picture, but my iPad won’t let me shrink it down enough for the forum to accept it.  Undecided

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Re: A 25-20 SS Low Wall
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I didn’t mention that in one of my earliest mass buys of 310 sets and loose dies I found in the mix all the pieces to reassemble a complete set of 25-20 SS dies. I even got a properly marked die box from Jake Simmons at an ASSRA Nationals. Just to complete things I have not one but two of the push through sizers, a 257283 bullet mould and a perfection 257 adjustable bullet mould. Add to these my stuff for breech seating and my 25-20 SS shooting “program” is really coming together (after only 30 years or so! 
Froggie

PS  I do still need to find someone to make an .257 insert for my Joe Ruth copy of a Pope Lube Pump.  Undecided
PPS  Dave, my check went into the big blue box on the corner this morning.  Let’s cheer for that westbound pony!
  
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