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Reply #15 - Mar 20th, 2026 at 2:28am
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Lever guns. New fangled repeating rifles. Nothing but trouble and they'll never catch on. Better to stay away from the bloody contraptions.
  

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Reply #16 - Mar 24th, 2026 at 10:28am
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Range report. Not good. Here is my sight setting at 100 yards. Now I know why I got a killer deal on that barrel. 3 inch groups at 100 yards.
  

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Reply #17 - Mar 24th, 2026 at 10:54am
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Looks like youll need a windgauge front. Are you going to try something different with ammo to see if you can improve it?
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Reply #18 - Mar 24th, 2026 at 11:03am
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rifleman wrote on Mar 24th, 2026 at 10:54am:
Looks like youll need a windgauge front. Are you going to try something different with ammonia to see if you can improve it?


What? The rifle has a windgauge front sight already. Ammonia?   

I don't understand your post. Good idea to read the thread before posting. 
  

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Reply #19 - Mar 24th, 2026 at 11:25am
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westerner wrote on Mar 24th, 2026 at 10:28am:
Range report. Not good. Here is my sight setting at 100 yards. Now I know why I got a killer deal on that barrel. 3 inch groups at 100 yards.



You’re suppose to use your right eye Wes! Smiley
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Reply #20 - Mar 24th, 2026 at 11:34am
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one of the frist single shots I bought was a 44 1/2 that had been rebored to 32-40 it shot about 4" left or right  from point I dont remeber so off to a gunsmith it came back with new stock and a new barrel in 32-40 new coller case harden the wood fit was so poor I just sold it
  
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Reply #21 - Mar 24th, 2026 at 11:52am
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bobw wrote on Mar 24th, 2026 at 11:25am:
westerner wrote on Mar 24th, 2026 at 10:28am:
Range report. Not good. Here is my sight setting at 100 yards. Now I know why I got a killer deal on that barrel. 3 inch groups at 100 yards.



You’re suppose to use your right eye Wes! Smiley
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Started out on Pigs this weekend. Once I got dialed in my cheek was not touching the stock. Got the first six but missed the last four. Hits were all over the place. Just left a message at Krieger Barrels. Thought I had a blank but it is .403-.401 16 twist. Have a .45 Badger blank but is to small. Always somethin. 
  

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Reply #22 - Mar 24th, 2026 at 12:01pm
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rifleman wrote on Mar 24th, 2026 at 10:54am:
Looks like youll need a windgauge front. Are you going to try something different with ammonia to see if you can improve it?


Babydriver did you change your user name?
  

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Reply #23 - Mar 24th, 2026 at 6:57pm
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Nah, its me. I had missed the photo of the wind gauge sight and as far as the ammonia,  new phone as of yesterday likes to finish words for me. 
Sorry
  
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Reply #24 - Mar 24th, 2026 at 8:37pm
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Jose', you have me plenty confounded here. A few days back you posted that it was gonna work for ya after you range tested and even shot some of those old loads. Now it's sights are that far off? 
The three-inch pattern is one thing, but it too might be tied to a sight problem or two. If it gets to be too frustrating, box it up and send here for a trial separation. Oh, crate up the brass and some bullets too, would ya? Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #25 - Mar 24th, 2026 at 10:00pm
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Sorry rifleman. I was bamboozled. You would think by now I'd be able to figure these PCs out a little better.

Pat, my test firing was a ten minute drive to my firearms testing place where I stuck the barrel out the window of the Jeep and went bang at the side of the mountain. That was before I even had the sight insert in it. A safety check only.  

I have no idea why POI is 10 feet to the right at 300 meters. Everything on the exterior including the sights are in line and normal. The bore looks normal when looking from the breech. When the original barrel was in place the rifles POI was normal.  When looking at the rifling at the muzzle with a strong light it appears one side has very light rifling and the opposite side has strong rifling. 3 inch groups at 100 yards is not acceptable accuracy nor the grouping on the pigs at 300 meters. So far I've tried three different types of ammo and three different bullets. It likes the 545 gr Darrel Smithson bullets best. But best is not good enough in this case. 

Krieger is not answering the phone or answering calls. Not today anyway. When I called Buffalo Arms they told me all they had was machine gun barrels.  Huh



 
  

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Reply #26 - Mar 25th, 2026 at 11:56am
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OK, I gotcha now. I was confounded to say the least- assuming that your earlier post said more than it did. Yes, three inches at a hundred isn't good enough- unless you subscribe to the seemingly agreed upon standard of the black gun heroes that we all see at ranges. 
So, seems like that thing is going to go back into the bottom of the pile for another long spell. Grab another one instead and make up for the lousy outing you just had.
  
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Reply #27 - Mar 25th, 2026 at 5:41pm
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Difficult finding a barrel blank in 40 or 45. I don't mind lousy outings. Didn't expect to do well at the match. Had fun experimenting with old rifles and being around friends.
Used duplex ammo which was so fun. 

I need a new barrel for my Hepburn, Pat. Where can I get one?
  

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Reply #28 - Mar 25th, 2026 at 6:00pm
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I never replaced a barrel on an old rifle. The modern-type I had were done by the 'smith upon me choosing Douglas. Joe, I ain't much on help here. If I had a Hepburn that needed a new tube, I'd be in poorer shape than you are my friend.
  
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Reply #29 - Mar 25th, 2026 at 6:35pm
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Was thinking I might put a liner in it. The rifle is old but nice with matching patina, AKA rust. But I get to wondering about barrel shank runout, or maybe the barrel is bent or some other calamitous defect. If the barrel is bent maybe I could make up a similar jig to straighten it. Worked perfect on this drop axle. Or use the mill as a press. Nah, a new barrel is the best solution.
  

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