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Ballard Receiver
Yesterday at 3:28pm
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I've been looking over my Ballard parts and noticed I have a pre-Marlin Ballard receiver.  It is set up for a manual extractor and has the longer 1.7" receiver ring.  The strange thing is that it is threaded for a v-thread the entire length of the receiver and is set up for a 20 thread pitch.  I've never seen one other than the 18 v or 8 square thread.  Anyone know what manufacturer did this?  I can't find any answer in Dutcher's book.  Of course there are not markings at all left on the receiver.
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Re: Ballard Receiver
Reply #1 - yesterday at 3:53pm
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Bruce,
Does it have a screw in tang?  I have an early Ballard action similar to that, without the tang.  Top and bottom tangs part of the action itself.  Threaded most of the way in 20 TPI,  I have notes that I came up with that say a Brown...  The other one pictured is a Brown though, with square threads full length and a screw in tang...
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Never knew there was anything except a screw in tang...





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Re: Ballard Receiver
Reply #3 - yesterday at 5:20pm
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jhm wrote yesterday at 4:05pm:
Never knew there was anything except a screw in tang...
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The earliest Ballard rifles before Marlin didn't use a through bolt tang. They had top and bottom tangs like many lever action repeating rifles have.
  
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Re: Ballard Receiver
Reply #4 - yesterday at 5:30pm
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Greg,
     This one does not have the screw in tang.  It has the earlier top and bottom tangs like most of the pre-Marlin ones I have seen. Based on what you are saying, I am thinking it is a Brown like the one in your picture.  I didn't realize that they had a 20 tpi full thread, but that sure sounds like mine.   
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Re: Ballard Receiver
Reply #5 - yesterday at 6:58pm
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I have one of the early ones with upper and lower tangs and external extractor.
Several parts are marked #290.  What I found doing research is the external tangs make it 1866 or earlier, so made by Ball and Williams (1862 to 1865) or 
R. Ball and Co. (1865 to 1866).  Serial range is said to be #1 to #15600.  Mine has the one piece breechblock, which were apparently up until Serial# 9700.
Supposedly the first 100 rifles had an internal extractor.  It's possible also that they started marking the side of the frame after serial# 9000.  Most of this info was gleaned from the internet, so take with a grain of salt!

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Reply #6 - yesterday at 9:10pm
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe any Brown Ballards had top and bottom tangs? Even earlier Merrimack's used a through bolt, but Ball & Williams and R. Ball had top & bottom tangs.
I had to grab my copy of Dutcher's book and it shows all Brown and Merrimack without the two tangs and were through bolt design.
Guessing yours is an earlier design if it has tangs.
  
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