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Harrells vs 4227 ?
Jun 20th, 2024 at 4:16pm
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I'm looking at getting a Harrells powder thrower and was wondering what one would be better measuring 4227 or is there a better thrower out there ? My load is 13.1 grains are they capable to get it close as possible and load at the bench instead of measuring all my load at home on a scale
  
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Re: Harrells vs 4227 ?
Reply #1 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 8:56am
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Mine throw 4227 very accurately.
  

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Re: Harrells vs 4227 ?
Reply #2 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 9:29am
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Harrells produces one of the most accurate measures made.
Which model do you wish to order?
The Schuetzen/pistol model is even more accurate measuring small loads.

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Re: Harrells vs 4227 ?
Reply #3 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 9:35am
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I have the Schuetzen version and after all the years of using a RCBS Uniflow I’m too heavy handed the use the Harrell version. If interested in a slightly used version mine can be bought for $150 shipped, pm if interested.

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Re: Harrells vs 4227 ?
Reply #4 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 9:51am
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I have won championships using a Lyman 55 but it is not accurate unless you use light steady control when you operate it and never let the hopper get less than half full.
And NEVER ever use the knocker.

Every powder measure requires you to learn how to best manipulate it.

The Harrell measures allow you to be able to accurately stratify even finer loads than most other powder measures.

Use your Harrel measure gently.
  
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Re: Harrells vs 4227 ?
Reply #5 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 9:56am
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I added a powder reservoir baffle to my Lyman 55
to improve the consistency.
Also, my Redding BR measure, also with baffle,  works accurately with 4227
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Re: Harrells vs 4227 ?
Reply #6 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 11:00am
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  After buying a Harrell's Schuetzen measure I'll never use anything else. Most accurate and consistent measure I've ever owned.
  

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Reply #7 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 11:40am
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Premod70 has offered a deal. Take him up on his offer.
  
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Re: Harrells vs 4227 ?
Reply #8 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 12:22pm
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Having used both the Harrells SCHUETZEN and BENCH REST measures for some years, I find the BR throws more accurate charges than the Schuetzen with 4227. The Schuetzen measure cuts more 4227 powder kernels than the BR. The Schetzen is great for flake and ball powders such as Win 296 & Accurate No.9 but the BR is better for short stick powders such as 4227 IMO. NOW . . . if I were only going to use one measure, I'd take the Schuetzen, hands-down.
More comments; I've used a number of measures over the years. There are a lot of good ones available but the Harrells has given the best results for me. As stated earlier, the Harrells takes a light hand to get the most consistent powder charges.
  

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Re: Harrells vs 4227 ?
Reply #9 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 5:21pm
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Harrels best measure I have ever used. Like any measure it’s possible to throw light charges with inconsistent technique. Recommend throwing a hundred of your 4227 loads in a scale pan weigh & keep track of light drops. Will find out quickly if you can throw consistent. Key is a slight pause upstroke to down stroke  allowing the rotor to fill. Too quick makes for short drops.

Long as I have been using a Harrell’s, late 1990’s, still run 10 over the scale starting. All drop fine omit the check weighing step. Like RSW said light hand is best, I flick the handle with index finger.

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