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Re: Schoyen Style Stock on a Ballard
Reply #15 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 5:32pm
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What type of disc do you use for the rough shaping Bob? Is it like a flapper disc, or what?

Beautiful stock work, even at this early stages!
  

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Reply #16 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 5:48pm
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Vall, the disc looks like shingles, overlapping each section.  I use the 36 grit and stiff enough you can put lots of pressure on it if you want too.  I know there is a rasp like cutter and would probably try one except our hardware store doesn’t carry it.  For 3 buck each I just use these.  One does a one stock unless the wood is rock hard.

Normally the grinding takes me 15-20 minutes.  But the day I did this one it was 10 degrees.  I’m not know for wearing a coat, so I would work for a few minutes until my hands got cold, then go in, do something else and warm up.  Took 2 hours using this cycle.
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Reply #17 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 6:24pm
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I did a lot of cabinet building in cold weather, so I know how the coolness can feel. I dunno how you guys up there can take  much more of this. My hat is off to you (no need to doff yours in return- too damn cold!)
But, I sure am enjoying the results here like I did a while back when you were stocking the Walker Hepburn. Super work on stunning wood.Smiley
  
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Reply #18 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 8:54pm
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bobw wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 5:48pm:
Vall, the disc looks like shingles, overlapping each section.  I use the 36 grit and stiff enough you can put lots of pressure on it if you want too.  I know there is a rasp like cutter and would probably try one except our hardware store doesn’t carry it.  For 3 buck each I just use these.  One does a one stock unless the wood is rock hard.

Normally the grinding takes me 15-20 minutes.  But the day I did this one it was 10 degrees.  I’m not know for wearing a coat, so I would work for a few minutes until my hands got cold, then go in, do something else and warm up.  Took 2 hours using this cycle.
Bob


Thanks Bob! I have bunches of those I use in metal fab work for years. They're what we call flapper discs.

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Re: Schoyen Style Stock on a Ballard
Reply #19 - Feb 8th, 2026 at 6:39pm
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Very NICE work BOB - Thanks for sharing again with us Wink
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Reply #20 - Feb 8th, 2026 at 11:34pm
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Tom decided he would like a horn insert in the forearm and the bottom of the grip.  So, I thought I would show how I did the forearm inlay.

I have used horn in the past for buttplates, grip caps and forearm noses, but had never done an inlay like what is wanted.  This first photo shows what he likes.

Since this is really an inlay, I probably could have installed it like a piece of metal but felt the horn did not have the strength of metal, and it would not take the constant installing and removing while fitting.  So, I made the inlet first and then shaped the horn to fit the inlet.

The inlay is 1 1/4 inch long, 1/4 at the small end and 5/8 at the big end.  

I started by cutting a slot, with my mill, 1/4 inch wide and to the 1 1/4 length, as shown in the second picture.  I could have done this by hand, rather than the mill, but it helps speed up forming the small end and getting to the initial depth.

Photo 3.  I then laid out the inlay, around the slot I cut.  I used a scribe to mark the lines.

Photo 4.  Once laid out, I slightly deepened those line using a straight chisel and gouge style caving tool.  The gouge was the correct curve to follow the curved line on the wide end of the inlay.
When removing the excess wood from an inlay like this I alway start by removing the wood just inside my layout lines.  This picture shows how I am doing this.  I remove the wood to full depth.  By doing this it takes the pressure off the wood removed in the next step, helps give me control where the wood breaks and helps maintain sharp/clean edges.

Photo 5.  Here I have now removed the wood at the front of the inlet.  I'm using the same gouge I deepened the layout lines with.
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Re: Schoyen Style Stock on a Ballard
Reply #21 - Feb 9th, 2026 at 12:03am
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In this first picture, here, you can see better how the wood is breaking as it is cut.  I am working from the small end toward the large. The break lines pointing toward the center of the inlet are where the grain is breaking.  It is important the direction each side of the layout is cut.  Cutting the wrong direction and the grain break toward the outside, rather than the inside, as shown here.
The other side would normally be cut from the large toward small end, but in the end, it really depends on the wood.

Photo 2.  The finished inlet.  Ready for the horn.

Photo 3.  The finished inlet with the two tools I used to cleanup the inlet.

Photo 4.  The horn fitted to the inlet.  It was simply a matter of first getting the large end shaped, and then working each side  until the horn would start into the inlet.  I then continued until the horn would go in with slight pressure but could still be removed.

Photo 5.  The rough finish horn inlay.  I normally do not recommend epoxy for horn because this is what I have been told.  But, in this case I really want the black color available in epoxy and did not want a clear line with glue around the horn, so I'm taking the chance.  But, so that the horn is locked in, or at least I hope, I cut deep lines around the horn below the wood level, along with lines cut in the wood also.  I'm thinking this will lock the horn in.  Time will tell!
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Re: Schoyen Style Stock on a Ballard
Reply #22 - yesterday at 9:31am
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Looks like it was born there. Just superb work.
  
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