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Barrel rests
Jan 30th, 2026 at 11:04pm
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My recent Ballard project has a Schoyen barrel with a fairly large 5/8" dovetail on the bottom that I believe was for a mechanical rest? No idea what that might have looked like, but I'd like some ideas of what one might look like so I can make one for this rifle.
Any suggestions, or pictures would be very appreciated!
  

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Reply #1 - Jan 31st, 2026 at 4:05am
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Interesting. Don't think I've never seen one dovetailed to a barrel.
  

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Reply #2 - Jan 31st, 2026 at 11:51am
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westerner wrote on Jan 31st, 2026 at 4:05am:
Interesting. Don't think I've never seen one dovetailed to a barrel.


Me either Joe, and I'm just guessing since I've never seen a dovetail this large underneath a barrel, or in this location a couple inches ahead of the forearm? 
A fine target barrel like a Schoyen in .40-50SS must have had some specific purpose for this big dovetail?
  

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Reply #3 - Jan 31st, 2026 at 12:11pm
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Seems that would be way back for a barrel rest. I wonder if it was for a barrel stop. I've seen barrel stops on European target rifles mounted there. For the type of shooting they do at New Braunfels.
  

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westerner wrote on Jan 31st, 2026 at 12:11pm:
Seems that would be way back for a barrel rest. I wonder if it was for a barrel stop. I've seen barrel stops on European target rifles mounted there. For the type of shooting they do at New Braunfels.


Maybe so! I haven't seen a barrel stop, so I'll have to see if I can find pictures of them.
  

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Reply #5 - Jan 31st, 2026 at 2:10pm
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Years ago I had a BSA Martini with a dove tail cut into the barrel just ahead of the forearm that took weights that slid in and locked with a thumbscrew one of which I had. Could this be similar?
  
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Reply #6 - Jan 31st, 2026 at 2:22pm
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Val, how about a picture
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 31st, 2026 at 3:03pm
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bnice wrote on Jan 31st, 2026 at 2:22pm:
Val, how about a picture


My camera isn't cooperating, but here's a few low quality pics. The dovetail is almost halfway down the 30" barrel. Measures .539" wide and .20" deep.

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Reply #8 - Feb 2nd, 2026 at 9:51am
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This is on an old Pannepecker Muzzleloading percussion target rifle but may give you some idea of how a dovetail rest was constructed / used. Regards, Chris
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 2nd, 2026 at 9:52am
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2nd Pic (sorry would only let me add 1 at a time for some reason)
  
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3rd and last pic, regards, Chris
  
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Reply #11 - Feb 2nd, 2026 at 10:19am
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Thanks Chris! 
I like the way the rest is made to be easily removable! A bit more work than making it more permanent, but a nice touch. I was thinking of a loose dovetail with a setscrew, but that's much nicer.
  

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Reply #12 - Feb 2nd, 2026 at 11:12am
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Andover Arms wrote on Feb 2nd, 2026 at 9:51am:
This is on an old Pannepecker Muzzleloading percussion target rifle but may give you some idea of how a dovetail rest was constructed / used. Regards, Chris


I was going to suggest it was a dovetail for a bipod and ground hog shooting Smiley

Might not be too far from the truth
  
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Reply #13 - Feb 2nd, 2026 at 11:23am
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Could the dovetail in the barrel have been for a sling swivel?
  
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Reply #14 - Feb 2nd, 2026 at 11:44am
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Sure shot wrote on Feb 2nd, 2026 at 11:23am:
Could the dovetail in the barrel have been for a sling swivel?


Here's a picture of the dovetailed sling swivel on my # 9 Ballard. Dovetail looks to be about .300.
  

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