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Reply #15 - Jan 23rd, 2026 at 2:59pm
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Very interesting.  Assuming it’s not a prototype, & the one thing that suggests it’s not is the 92XX serial number.  Of course the block may not be original to the receiver.

When comparing it to the improved breechblock displayed on page 296 of John Dutcher’s book, the gunsmith had to mill out the rear of the block to make room for the new main trigger spring, make the main trigger spring, modify the hammer, make a fly, modify the main trigger & make all the components of the set-trigger assembly including drilling out both sides of the block to accept the trigger pivot pin & the screw to hold the set-trigger spring.  It appears he used the original trigger screw for the set-trigger.  Since there was no longer material to hold the sear spring found in factory set-triggers, the original trigger spring was repurposed into the sear spring.  All that took a lot of planning and gunsmithing talent.

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Reply #16 - Jan 23rd, 2026 at 3:52pm
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Wayne, Ballard breech blocks are serial numbered on both halves to match the receiver, so easy to know if they're not originals. But so many customized Ballards have mismatched blocks, barrels, stocks, etc., it's never a surprise to find numbers that don't match.
  

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Reply #17 - Jan 23rd, 2026 at 3:53pm
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TomKlinger wrote on Jan 23rd, 2026 at 1:28pm:
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Looking at it, it gives tension to the sear so it engages the hammer.


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That makes sense! Thanks.
  

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Reply #18 - Jan 23rd, 2026 at 8:35pm
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marlinguy wrote on Jan 23rd, 2026 at 3:52pm:
Wayne, Ballard breech blocks are serial numbered on both halves to match the receiver, so easy to know if they're not originals. But so many customized Ballards have mismatched blocks, barrels, stocks, etc., it's never a surprise to find numbers that don't match.


Thanks Vall.  It's been a while since I had my one & only Ballard apart & did not remember the block being serial numbered.

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Reply #19 - Jan 24th, 2026 at 11:11am
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texasmac wrote on Jan 23rd, 2026 at 8:35pm:
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Thanks Vall.  It's been a while since I had my one & only Ballard apart & did not remember the block being serial numbered.

Wayne


Ballard rifles by Marlin were serial numbered on the receiver, both breech block halves, the tang, buttstock and forearm, barrel, and buttplate if it's metal and not hard rubber. The stock and forearm were serial numbered on the ends that butt up to the receiver.
  

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Reply #20 - Jan 25th, 2026 at 1:04pm
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Ballard action after case hardening

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Reply #21 - Jan 25th, 2026 at 1:18pm
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Tom, that is really nice.

Did you go lite on the polishing of the frame because of the engraving?  Or is it just the picture showing a more matte finish than the lever.
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Reply #22 - Jan 25th, 2026 at 1:59pm
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The lever was a little rough, I used 320 on it. After CCH and I did my finishing work it matched action completely. I did go light on the polishing of the action. After the CCH I went over everything with 0000 steel wool to “ tone down” on the colors. I also annealed the parts at for a while. Light steel wool again to get the look I wanted, then 2 light coats of Nikolas bake on lacquer to protect the finish.
Didn’t want bright case colors to overpower the engraving any more than necessary. This is a special action, I didn’t want it to look like a clown show😁
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Reply #23 - Jan 25th, 2026 at 5:39pm
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I like the toned down colors for an engraved action. It doesn't conceal the engraving like vivid colors do. I love vivid case colors on non engraved actions though.
I think the factories did something similar also as engraved rifles in high condition always appear to have lower level case colors often.
  

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Reply #24 - Jan 25th, 2026 at 8:44pm
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TomKlinger wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 1:59pm:
The lever was a little rough, I used 320 on it. After CCH and I did my finishing work it matched action completely. I did go light on the polishing of the action. After the CCH I went over everything with 0000 steel wool to “ tone down” on the colors. I also annealed the parts at for a while. Light steel wool again to get the look I wanted, then 2 light coats of Nikolas bake on lacquer to protect the finish.
Didn’t want bright case colors to overpower the engraving any more than necessary. This is a special action, I didn’t want it to look like a clown show😁
Tom Klinger


Tom,

Which Nikolas did you use.  I know they have at least a couple of different types, e.g., 11470, 11693...  I need to lacquer the Ballard you worked on.

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Reply #25 - Jan 25th, 2026 at 9:19pm
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Wayne, 
I use #15819 clear bake on at 300* for 30 min.


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Reply #26 - Jan 25th, 2026 at 10:22pm
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I usually just wax the receivers with paste wax and buff after new colors. I figure it wont come off in my lifetime.
  

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Reply #27 - Jan 25th, 2026 at 11:37pm
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TomKlinger wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 9:19pm:
Wayne, 
I use #15819 clear bake on at 300* for 30 min.

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Thanks Tom.

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Reply #28 - Jan 25th, 2026 at 11:40pm
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marlinguy wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 10:22pm:
I usually just wax the receivers with paste wax and buff after new colors. I figure it wont come off in my lifetime.


Vall,

I have been using paste wax but have wondered how durable it is - thought I'd try lacquer.

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Reply #29 - Jan 26th, 2026 at 9:24am
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texasmac wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 11:40pm:
marlinguy wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 10:22pm:
I usually just wax the receivers with paste wax and buff after new colors. I figure it wont come off in my lifetime.


Vall,

I have been using paste wax but have wondered how durable it is - thought I'd try lacquer.

Wayne


I don't know for sure, but since we take such good care of our rifles I can't imagine it's not a good protective coating? I've been coating my stocks and metal on my hunting rifles for decades prior to taking them out in the fall for deer and elk hunting. Even in pretty ugly conditions the water beads up and runs off. And those rifles still look great.
  

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