Welcome, Guest. Please
Login
or
Register
ASSRA Home
Board Index
Help
Search
Login
Register
ASSRA Forum
›
General
›
Single Shot Rifles
› Ballard DST
(Moderator Group: Moderator)
‹
Previous Topic
|
Next Topic
›
Pages:
1
[2]
3
Send Topic
Print
Ballard DST (Read 1391 times)
texasmac
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Posts: 2121
Location: Central Texas
Joined: Aug 16
th
, 2004
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #15 -
Jan 23
rd
, 2026 at 2:59pm
Print Post
Very interesting. Assuming it’s not a prototype, & the one thing that suggests it’s not is the 92XX serial number. Of course the block may not be original to the receiver.
When comparing it to the improved breechblock displayed on page 296 of John Dutcher’s book, the gunsmith had to mill out the rear of the block to make room for the new main trigger spring, make the main trigger spring, modify the hammer, make a fly, modify the main trigger & make all the components of the set-trigger assembly including drilling out both sides of the block to accept the trigger pivot pin & the screw to hold the set-trigger spring. It appears he used the original trigger screw for the set-trigger. Since there was no longer material to hold the sear spring found in factory set-triggers, the original trigger spring was repurposed into the sear spring. All that took a lot of planning and gunsmithing talent.
Wayne
IP Logged
marlinguy
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Ballards may be weaker,
but they sure are neater!
Posts: 17643
Location: Oregon
Joined: Feb 2
nd
, 2009
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #16 -
Jan 23
rd
, 2026 at 3:52pm
Print Post
Wayne, Ballard breech blocks are serial numbered on both halves to match the receiver, so easy to know if they're not originals. But so many customized Ballards have mismatched blocks, barrels, stocks, etc., it's never a surprise to find numbers that don't match.
(You need to
Login
or
Register
to view media files and links)
IP Logged
marlinguy
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Ballards may be weaker,
but they sure are neater!
Posts: 17643
Location: Oregon
Joined: Feb 2
nd
, 2009
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #17 -
Jan 23
rd
, 2026 at 3:53pm
Print Post
TomKlinger wrote
on Jan 23
rd
, 2026 at 1:28pm:
marlinguy,
Looking at it, it gives tension to the sear so it engages the hammer.
Tom
That makes sense! Thanks.
(You need to
Login
or
Register
to view media files and links)
IP Logged
texasmac
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Posts: 2121
Location: Central Texas
Joined: Aug 16
th
, 2004
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #18 -
Jan 23
rd
, 2026 at 8:35pm
Print Post
marlinguy wrote
on Jan 23
rd
, 2026 at 3:52pm:
Wayne, Ballard breech blocks are serial numbered on both halves to match the receiver, so easy to know if they're not originals. But so many customized Ballards have mismatched blocks, barrels, stocks, etc., it's never a surprise to find numbers that don't match.
Thanks Vall. It's been a while since I had my one & only Ballard apart & did not remember the block being serial numbered.
Wayne
IP Logged
marlinguy
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Ballards may be weaker,
but they sure are neater!
Posts: 17643
Location: Oregon
Joined: Feb 2
nd
, 2009
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #19 -
Jan 24
th
, 2026 at 11:11am
Print Post
texasmac wrote
on Jan 23
rd
, 2026 at 8:35pm:
[quote author=3F33203E3B3C35272B520 link=1769126311/16#16 date=1769201577]
Thanks Vall. It's been a while since I had my one & only Ballard apart & did not remember the block being serial numbered.
Wayne
Ballard rifles by Marlin were serial numbered on the receiver, both breech block halves, the tang, buttstock and forearm, barrel, and buttplate if it's metal and not hard rubber. The stock and forearm were serial numbered on the ends that butt up to the receiver.
(You need to
Login
or
Register
to view media files and links)
IP Logged
TomKlinger
Full Member
Offline
Posts: 238
Location: Central Florida
Joined: Feb 17
th
, 2019
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #20 -
Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 1:04pm
Print Post
Ballard action after case hardening
Tom Klinger
IP Logged
bobw
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Posts: 1989
Location: NW, Iowa
Joined: Mar 19
th
, 2013
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #21 -
Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 1:18pm
Print Post
Tom, that is really nice.
Did you go lite on the polishing of the frame because of the engraving? Or is it just the picture showing a more matte finish than the lever.
Bob
Robert Warren
IP Logged
TomKlinger
Full Member
Offline
Posts: 238
Location: Central Florida
Joined: Feb 17
th
, 2019
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #22 -
Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 1:59pm
Print Post
The lever was a little rough, I used 320 on it. After CCH and I did my finishing work it matched action completely. I did go light on the polishing of the action. After the CCH I went over everything with 0000 steel wool to “ tone down” on the colors. I also annealed the parts at for a while. Light steel wool again to get the look I wanted, then 2 light coats of Nikolas bake on lacquer to protect the finish.
Didn’t want bright case colors to overpower the engraving any more than necessary. This is a special action, I didn’t want it to look like a clown show😁
Tom Klinger
«
Last Edit: Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 3:29pm by TomKlinger
»
IP Logged
marlinguy
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Ballards may be weaker,
but they sure are neater!
Posts: 17643
Location: Oregon
Joined: Feb 2
nd
, 2009
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #23 -
Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 5:39pm
Print Post
I like the toned down colors for an engraved action. It doesn't conceal the engraving like vivid colors do. I love vivid case colors on non engraved actions though.
I think the factories did something similar also as engraved rifles in high condition always appear to have lower level case colors often.
(You need to
Login
or
Register
to view media files and links)
IP Logged
texasmac
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Posts: 2121
Location: Central Texas
Joined: Aug 16
th
, 2004
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #24 -
Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 8:44pm
Print Post
TomKlinger wrote
on Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 1:59pm:
The lever was a little rough, I used 320 on it. After CCH and I did my finishing work it matched action completely. I did go light on the polishing of the action. After the CCH I went over everything with 0000 steel wool to “ tone down” on the colors. I also annealed the parts at for a while. Light steel wool again to get the look I wanted, then 2 light coats of Nikolas bake on lacquer to protect the finish.
Didn’t want bright case colors to overpower the engraving any more than necessary. This is a special action, I didn’t want it to look like a clown show😁
Tom Klinger
Tom,
Which Nikolas did you use. I know they have at least a couple of different types, e.g., 11470, 11693... I need to lacquer the Ballard you worked on.
Wayne
IP Logged
TomKlinger
Full Member
Offline
Posts: 238
Location: Central Florida
Joined: Feb 17
th
, 2019
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #25 -
Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 9:19pm
Print Post
Wayne,
I use #15819 clear bake on at 300* for 30 min.
Tom
IP Logged
marlinguy
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Ballards may be weaker,
but they sure are neater!
Posts: 17643
Location: Oregon
Joined: Feb 2
nd
, 2009
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #26 -
Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 10:22pm
Print Post
I usually just wax the receivers with paste wax and buff after new colors. I figure it wont come off in my lifetime.
(You need to
Login
or
Register
to view media files and links)
IP Logged
texasmac
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Posts: 2121
Location: Central Texas
Joined: Aug 16
th
, 2004
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #27 -
Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 11:37pm
Print Post
TomKlinger wrote
on Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 9:19pm:
Wayne,
I use #15819 clear bake on at 300* for 30 min.
Tom
Thanks Tom.
Wayne
IP Logged
texasmac
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Posts: 2121
Location: Central Texas
Joined: Aug 16
th
, 2004
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #28 -
Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 11:40pm
Print Post
marlinguy wrote
on Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 10:22pm:
I usually just wax the receivers with paste wax and buff after new colors. I figure it wont come off in my lifetime.
Vall,
I have been using paste wax but have wondered how durable it is - thought I'd try lacquer.
Wayne
IP Logged
marlinguy
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Ballards may be weaker,
but they sure are neater!
Posts: 17643
Location: Oregon
Joined: Feb 2
nd
, 2009
Re: Ballard DST
Reply #29 -
Jan 26
th
, 2026 at 9:24am
Print Post
texasmac wrote
on Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 11:40pm:
marlinguy wrote
on Jan 25
th
, 2026 at 10:22pm:
I usually just wax the receivers with paste wax and buff after new colors. I figure it wont come off in my lifetime.
Vall,
I have been using paste wax but have wondered how durable it is - thought I'd try lacquer.
Wayne
I don't know for sure, but since we take such good care of our rifles I can't imagine it's not a good protective coating? I've been coating my stocks and metal on my hunting rifles for decades prior to taking them out in the fall for deer and elk hunting. Even in pretty ugly conditions the water beads up and runs off. And those rifles still look great.
(You need to
Login
or
Register
to view media files and links)
IP Logged
Pages:
1
[2]
3
Send Topic
Print
‹
Previous Topic
|
Next Topic
›
Forum Jump »
Board Index
» 10 most recent Posts
» 10 most recent Topics
General
Announcements
General Discussion
Single Shot Rifles ««
Reloading the Single Shot Rifle
Gunsmithing Single Shot Rifles
Collecting Single Shot Rifles
Hunting with Single Shot Rifles
Rifle Photos
ASSRA Match Scores
For Sale/Trade
Support and Feedback
ASSRA.COM Feedback and Suggestions
Forum Help
Membership Support
« Board Index
‹ Board
ASSRA Forum
» Powered by
YaBB 2.6.12
!
YaBB Forum Software
© 2000-2026. All Rights Reserved.
Page completed in 0.7343 seconds.