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Ballard DST
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Is this factory Ballard DST?
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No Tom, it's not. Ballard set triggers are fitted to a base plate, not built into the breech block halves. And look much different in their parts too. Somebody converted a single trigger to set triggers.
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I didn’t think so, however whoever did it did a very good job! Looks like a lot of work!
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A quick Internet search resulted in the following. "Double set-triggers became a prominent feature on Ballard rifles when they were reintroduced in the mid-1870s following the launch of the "New Ballard" action in 1875."
The design appears to be high-quality & required a lot of work. Could that be from a prototype rifle when Ballard was designing their double set-trigger? Any idea when the receiver was made?
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Wayne,
It’s #92XX has hoop lever.
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texasmac wrote
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A quick Internet search resulted in the following. "Double set-triggers became a prominent feature on Ballard rifles when they were reintroduced in the mid-1870s following the launch of the "New Ballard" action in 1875."
The design appears to be high-quality & required a lot of work. Could that be from a prototype rifle when Ballard was designing their double set-trigger? Any idea when the receiver was made?
Wayne
No, it's not some prototype, or factory DST block. I own Ballard rifles down in low 3 digit actions and they all use a removable plate on the breech block that is the DST assembly. There's far more about this assembly that is totally different than anything Marlin ever made. It looks like a very talented gunsmith's work, but not Marlin's work.
Early Marlin DST plates differ from later in only one respect; they hung down slightly below the bottom of the receiver. Later plates sat flush with the bottom.
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Here’s the lever….
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TomKlinger wrote
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Wayne,
It’s #92XX has hoop lever.
Tom Klinger
Tom, I can't make out the rollstamp on that gorgeous action. Does it read "JM Marlin" or "Marlin Firearms Co."?
If it's a JM Marlin stamp it dates to pre 1881 era.
The lever is the #6 style ball and spur lever.
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Marlinguy,
JM Marlin New Haven Conn.
Unfortunately, it’s not my rifle. I’m just re barreling it.it’s currently an offset bored .22
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Marlinguy,
JM Marlin New Haven Conn.
Unfortunately, it’s not my rifle. I’m just re barreling it.it’s currently an offset bored .22
Tom
Like the DST block, the offset bore to make a CF into a RF i something only talented gunsmiths did in the day! I own a Ballard #6 Scheutzen that was built by Zettler and fitted with a .22 Short barrel offset shank to make the CF firing pin strike the rim of the .22RF. I think mine might have also been a switch barrel once and the second barrel got separated from it. There's a screw on the right side of the receiver designed to secure the barrel and likely also be a hook for a breech seating tool. I really should fit up a nice .32-40 Ballard barrel I have to it so it's a set again.
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Tom,
Here are some pictures of the factory double set trigger breech block. And the set triggers. The one picture shows the triggers plate attached.
I'm not sure the sear spring is the shape of the originals. I saw one like this in another BB. The one that was in that one was poorly done so I replaced it with one like this, which I made.
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Interesting! Someone sure put a lot of skilled work into this one…
Thanks for your help and information
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Bob,
Thanks for your information also!
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The original DST sear spring was simply curved down to touch, not the C shape Bob's sear spring has. Although I think Bob's version would likely work even better than the originals do.
I'm curious about the C shaped trigger return spring sitting in the left side of that breech block in your first image Tom? That's for a single trigger action, and doesn't appear to have any function to this nicely modified set trigger action?
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marlinguy,
Looking at it, it gives tension to the sear so it engages the hammer.
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