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Re: Need Help with Rolling Block ID
Reply #15 - Dec 31st, 2025 at 12:16pm
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oneatatime wrote on Dec 30th, 2025 at 5:03pm:
I have a WWII British Enfield revolver in 38 S&W (the Brits called it 38/200 and they ordered S&W model 10s in that cartridge and after the war when they were returned to S&W some got rechambered to 38 Special which didn't turn out well). The 38 S&W cartridge was developed in 1877 (also known as the Colt New Police) Using the 200 grain bullet accounts for the high front sights on the Enfields and they have to be lowered to shoot lighter bullets. A little more useless information is that in the early 1970s the Enfield MK Is (which had been  standard police issue in odd British places and had no hammer spurs hence DA only) flooded the States and were sold for $14.95. 
Note - I'm not saying it has to be 200 grains, that would be rare in this country at this time. I shoot any standard 38 weight bullets in the Enfield after I lowered the front sight. I see Midway USA has ammo in stock with 145 grain round nose bullets which would be more appropriate for available in the US ammo.


OT, but the 200 grain bullets are much more accurate in these revolvers than the lighter bullets.
  
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Re: Need Help with Rolling Block ID
Reply #16 - Dec 31st, 2025 at 1:41pm
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Yes, it is what these revolvers were designed for but the trick for 38 S&W is finding common 38 moulds that cast .361 or .362 or so. If I had it to do over again (after 50 years!) I would just order what I needed from Accurate Molds. I just looked in the way back file for loads I had tried and the most accurate (remember it is DA only) was what I show as a 200 (probably was 358430 which I don't have anymore) and 3.3 grains of Herco. This has gotten me interested and I would play with it again but offhand I can't find my box of brass and just have the 5 rounds I keep in the revolver (empty chamber under the hammer) as it is my only loaded gun in the house. A little rolling block in 38 S&W would be fun to play with using the right bullet.
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Re: Need Help with Rolling Block ID
Reply #17 - Jan 3rd, 2026 at 9:38pm
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First of all, full disclosure this was my first chamber cast, but the casting went well. I was unable to find a suitable bullet to use in slugging the barrel so I hacked off a piece of lead hammered it roundish and tapped it down the barrel with a brass rod. So that all went well, turns out I can’t take a measurement to save my life. I have included the numbers I ended up with but keep in mind just about each time I tried I came up with a different number.  All that said, while it may be a .38 Long Colt, it seems to me that any way you slice it the chamber appears to be tapered. Enough of a taper that I would be afraid that even with the correct hipped bullet I’m not sure the case wouldn’t just split as it tried to expand into that chamber. I could be wrong I’m obviously no gun smith.  I think I may be to the point of taking the suggestion of having it sleeved with something fun to shoot and plentiful like a .38 special or something. Any thoughts on this and recommendations on who does this type of work are appreciated. I really do like this old rifle and would love to see it shoot again.
  
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Re: Need Help with Rolling Block ID
Reply #18 - yesterday at 9:18am
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I need to pay more attention when I posted the above I thought Timetrippers reply was the last one on page 1 not noticing there was a page 2. All of the replies have been super helpful this is a great forum. I need to get my Trapdoor out so I brag on a single shot I own that actually works.
  
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Re: Need Help with Rolling Block ID
Reply #19 - yesterday at 10:46am
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I have the same rifle I bought locally at our collector gun show that was relined and chambered for .38 Special. I really like it, even though it's not a traditional chambering I would have chosen. I'd have had it I'd have had it bored and re-rifled to .38-55 myself, but it does shoot really well as a .38 Special.
I've shot it out to 500 yds. using a 158 grain round nose bullet, and it's very accurate. More hits at 400 yds. with me shooting, so I keep it at 400 yds. or less.
  

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Re: Need Help with Rolling Block ID
Reply #20 - yesterday at 2:57pm
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That sounds like a reasonable way to go.
  
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