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Reply #15 - Dec 20th, 2025 at 8:00am
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Since you're working with the same steel I will be,  any suggestions for welding it? I've worked the steel to come close to matching the wood, now I need to add some metal to the sides to widen it out, and a bit on the back at the top and bottom. I'll be back around my old welder at Christmas,  so I'll sneak into the garage while I'm at the in laws...
  
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Reply #16 - Dec 20th, 2025 at 11:24am
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The guy who taught me stock work emphasized to always use a backer of some kind when sanding which applies to both wood and metal. His suggestion for curves was a selection of tubing from the auto parts store. The smallest vacuum line is about 1/4” OD, the larger heater hoses are about an inch, with many choices in between. He was correct, and it works.
Edit- the blocky style of pencil erasers, IE the sharp corner rectangular gum and slash cut pink and white also make excellent backers.
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Reply #17 - Dec 20th, 2025 at 7:19pm
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I always hate doing the countersink after the polish, but if I countersink first, I run the chance of egging or dishing the holes slightly while polishing.

I found the screws I wanted to use, and they were bigger than the holes I had in place.  I drilled the holes to size, and a chip gouged a couple places next to the hole.  Then, I countersunk the holes, and the closest countersink I had in diameter was .040" smaller than the screw heads.  So, no problem, just file them and repolish, right?  

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I have a large stock of old stock screws I've accumulated from buying out a lot of old gunsmiths supplies.  The two I chose were incredibly hard.  Make a groove in the teeth of a file hard.  So, had to grind them to size.  The .040" did this to a carborundum stone, but I got them done:

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Polish the screw heads with successive grits of paper while spinning in drill press.

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Now had to polish out the burring at the hole edges, and the small gouges from the errant chips.  To do that, use coarse grit right around the hole, and at the gouges until the burr and the gouges are done.  Then, successively polish with finer grits, expanding the area slightly each time to blend it.  When I get to 400, I covered the whole area, and then with 600, polished it all.  Now, finished and ready for plating.  Since it's going to be plated, I'm leaving it as bare, untreated metal.  It may surface rust and show fingerprints lightly.  I'll repolish it all with 400 and then 600 immediately before sending it off, and then put in a ziplock with some vapor rust inhibiting paper to ship.  

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Reply #18 - Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:11pm
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Dave,

Great work, and a great post!  I seem to recall reading somewhere that small pits can be filled with solder for parts that are to be plated, but I can claim no first hand knowledge as to whether it would actually work.
  
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Reply #19 - Dec 21st, 2025 at 10:23am
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Dave,  Excellent post and the steps are well explained.
Also explains why it is almost impossible to make a living as a custom gunsmith.
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Reply #20 - Dec 21st, 2025 at 10:31am
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If you use the newer soft solder that is (Usually) 95% tin/ 5% silver to fill in voids, etc. that will take plating nicely.

A soft solder with Lead/Tin can sometimes work if the Tin content is high.

The factorys sometimes filled small irregularitys with Brass/Brazing. That of course plates as well.

Even Hard Solder will work well. You don't need quite as much heat to use it, but still in the 1100/1300F melt/flow range.

When polishing out the above repairs, always use  hard backed polishing techniques. If not used, the softer solder or Braze repairs will end up with cupped out surfaces when polishing with the surrounding steel.

If you are finished polishing and before you apply the final finish no matter what it is,,run the part lightly over a wire wheel with the surface of the part smeared with a thin coat of oil.
Any oil will do,,WD40, 3-1, motor oil, 'gun' oil...
A 'fine' wire wheel as is usually sold in most hardware and Box Stores works well.
An old carding wheel also works. Don't use the good one you use for Rust Blue carding!

Light pressure and non-directional working the surface will softly blend all the polishing grit marks.
It will leave you with what was called a burnished polish. 
You can brighten it up even more afterwards with a simple rub down with simichrome on a 0000 steel wool pad.

One thing the oil/wirewheel technique will do as well is to relveal any grit marks /scars/file marks you may have missed on your march thru the grit sizes.
Any problem will show up as a dark mark and can be then resolved with further hand polishing back thru the grit sizes.

Using the wirewheel/oil technique will not round edges nor dish out holes if you apply with light pressure. It won't harm lettering ,

The oil/wire wheel technique was one used by many of the old rifle builders. They often left the metal as is after that procedure and Rust Blued with that as a final metal finish.
  
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Re: Detailed Metal Finishing - Buttplate as an example
Reply #21 - Dec 24th, 2025 at 1:00am
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Another small detail that affects the final rifle appearance.

I had to set back a high wall barrel that had been installed on a C sharps.  It didn't index on a Winchester by .005", the barrel tenon was too long by .015, the rim recess had to be set back .010, and the chamber lengthened by a bit.

While I had it in the lathe, I rounded the octagon corners.  This small detail really makes the barrel look better installed.  

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Re: Detailed Metal Finishing - Buttplate as an example
Reply #22 - Dec 24th, 2025 at 7:37am
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Are those pennies I see? Well you have taught me something else...



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