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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 839 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: New Ballard 22 twist? Reply #15 - Dec 10^th, 2025 at 12:05pm	Print Post
	Greg, not meaning to hijack this thread, but what kind of score does it take to win the milk bottle cap match ?


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2321 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: New Ballard 22 twist? Reply #16 - Dec 10^th, 2025 at 1:38pm	Print Post
	.22Hepburn wrote on Dec 10^th, 2025 at 12:05pm: Greg, not meaning to hijack this thread, but what kind of score does it take to win the milk bottle cap match ? If you were to come shoot with us on Thursday nights and take all the quarters you'd have to shoot three cards with an average just below our Mendoza line of .500" for each card... We have one guy that has been on fire, he shot a .418, .534 and .540 for his three cards Thursday. Most nights he's really close to that. I've been in a slump the last few weeks and breaking the Mendoza line has been elusive. A new build I have going is going to change that though Are you shooting caps?

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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 839 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: New Ballard 22 twist? Reply #17 - Dec 11^th, 2025 at 11:37am	Print Post
	Greg, no. but I know about the game from Gary Quinlan who turned Tony on to it. I’d like to shoot your match but traveling 1800:miles to do it is probably not going to happen, lol. I have to say that it’s great that you folks are carrying on the tradition of the match. It was fascinating for me to hear Gary talk about going to the original range in Western Pa. and describing the history of the match.


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2321 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: New Ballard 22 twist? Reply #18 - Dec 11^th, 2025 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	My inspiration for this came from a lengthy conversation with Gary also, nearly 5 years ago. Between that, what Tony came up with and shooting every week our processes have evolved. We have several clubs in our area shooting this frequently and I think I just hooked a couple more this week. I have another boring post put together just haven't got it on the forum yet. Bear with me and maybe I'll put it on here in the next couple days.

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Bobduck Full Member Offline Posts: 111 Location: N W Montana Joined: Dec 13^th, 2013	Re: New Ballard 22 twist? Reply #19 - Jan 11^th, 2026 at 9:55pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 12:10pm: I never heard of using .22 RF ammo in .22 CF barrels. Just measured a couple 22 LR bullets here and they measure .225 &.226. Maybe my new Ballard has a CF barrel on it. Pull a bullet out of a 22 Long Rifle rimfire and push it down the barrel and measure it. If it goes easy you may have a CF barrel.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12120 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: New Ballard 22 twist? Reply #20 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 12:29am	Print Post
	I just slugged it. Measures .222.

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SPG Newbie Offline Posts: 3 Joined: Jan 15^th, 2026	Re: New Ballard 22 twist? Reply #21 - Jan 16^th, 2026 at 1:17pm	Print Post
	4570 Mike, I always wondered where my fast-twist .22 Ballard No. 6 ended up. Does it still have the dual-strike firing pin? Steve Garbe


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17560 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: New Ballard 22 twist? Reply #22 - Jan 16^th, 2026 at 5:57pm	Print Post
	I had to check the twist rate on my Cody Ballard as I've never done so in many years of owning it. Mine has a 1:14" twist Badger barrel in full round 30" #4 weight barrel. It's a Schoyen model using the #6 style lever. The most accurate .22RF rifle I own. I don't shoot it often at 50 ft. indoors, but it did do well there. Outdoors I've shot it at everything from 50 yds. to 300 yds. and it does well at all distances. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12120 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: New Ballard 22 twist? Reply #23 - yesterday at 6:48pm	Print Post
	Most accurate .22 rifles I have are 16 twist. Have not tried the new Ballard 14 twist at BR 100 yards yet. Seems perty accurate. So far.

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SPG Newbie Offline Posts: 3 Joined: Jan 15^th, 2026	Re: New Ballard 22 twist? Reply #24 - yesterday at 8:49pm	Print Post
	That 12-twist Ballard No. 6 shot almost as good as my 16-twist Schoyen Model from 50-feet out to 200 yards. I did shoot it at 300 yards and I think it did better than the 16-twist, but they were very close in accuracy. It definitely shot better with the 60-grain Aguila ammo at 100 yards. The dual firing pin strike lowered ES with cheaper ammo.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12120 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: New Ballard 22 twist? Reply #25 - Today at 12:22pm	Print Post
	I miss spoke. My RKS gain twist barrel has scored more perfect targets than my Schoyen barrel. Ron said cut it off here so I cut it off there. I can still cut it off where Ron suggested if I decide to. Have no idea what the twist is.

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