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Oct 9th, 2025 at 7:04pm
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Today with a great deal of anxiety I picked up a lo-wall 1885 Winchester i'd won.  It came thru an auction and, although there were pictures posted but not much can you tell from a few pictures.  Now, understand that this thing left the factory in 1890 and smokeless powder hadn't even been invented yet.
When I opened the package I was more than pleasantly surprised. The butt-stock has its shave of minor dings and scratches but no gouges or cracks while the unmarred areas still have a lot of the original factory finish left. No rust anywhere and mechanically it's as tight as new.  The bore is dark but still has plenty of lands and grooves which look fairly sharp.  Tomorrow I'm going to clean the bore with Hoppe's and a couple of other liquid solvents to see what's under that darkness.  Overall I have to say I got a really decent deal~!!
Now I'm back in a quandary what to do with it since it's chambered in .25RF.  Before I got my hand on it I was thinking I would have the caliber changed to .38 Special.  Now I'm not so sure.  It's useless as a .25RF and I certainly don't want a wall hanger.  So you see my dilemma. Maybe I'll step up to the plate and cough up for a couple of .25RF cartridges just to see how it shoots. Not looking for any kudos here, just surprised and happy to have this 135 year old piece of history in my hands.
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Reply #1 - Oct 9th, 2025 at 8:40pm
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I have 5 or 6 Stevens rifles with excellent bores in  .25 Stevens rimfire. It isn't a useless cartridge, there are various ways to get them shooting.  The simplest way is to breech seat using  .27 caliber nail gun loads. Cartridges can be made from .17 wsm rimfire cartridges by pulling the bullet and dumping the  powder and cutting off or expanding the bottle neck for a .257 diameter bullet of around 65 grains. I use Bullseye but other kinds of smokeless powder can be used. 


  
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Reply #2 - Oct 9th, 2025 at 11:10pm
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Depends on how much effort you want to spend and if you’re worried at all about keeping any collectors value. Sure shot gave some options for shooting rimfire. It’s tedious but possible to convert 17 WSM.

A center fire block should not be too hard to find. Then you can convert hornet brass and shoot center fire. There are some 25 Halsted brass on gunbroker right now that are exactly that. Not cheap.

It’s a fun cartridge and has its fans, I shot one in competition a few years ago, just because I could.
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 10th, 2025 at 9:49am
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I've owned a Ballard #3 in .25 Stevens for a couple decades now. A friend obtained a bunch of .25RF and .32RF Cannuck ammo at an estate sale and I bought all of it cheap from him. I shot up probably 4-5 boxes of it over the last couple decades, and sold 4 boxes at the CGCA show in May for $100 a box when I guy just wanted it badly. Still have two new boxes left, but they're staying with the gun when I sell it. 
I planned to try the breech seating with blank charges, but I've got six #3 Ballards, so I'm just going to sell this one instead.
  

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