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Oct 7th, 2025 at 6:17pm
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Is there a chart that converts calibers like 45-70 to 45-2 1/10?
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Reply #1 - Oct 8th, 2025 at 12:41pm
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Since no one else has jumped in on this, I’ll give it a go.

This is from notes I have made since I can never remember what the corresponding numbers are.  The information all came from somewhere along the way, so if I am incorrect on any of this please correct me.  Haven’t added anything on 50’s yet.
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40, 45 and 50 Caliber Cartridges

45-70 = 2.10    .500 base
45-90 = 2.40   .500 base
45-100= 2.60   .500 base
45-110= 2.875   .500 base
45-120 and 45-125 = 3.250    .506 base. Both the same externally.

40-63 and 40-70  Ballard, Both are the same size externally.

44-70= 2 1/4 bottleneck, this was also used with an express hollow point bullet by Sharps.

40-50-265= 1 7/8 Straight case
40-70-330= Sharps 2 1/4 Bottleneck case
40-70-330= Sharps 2 1/2 straight case
40-90-370= Sharps 2 5/8 Bottleneck case
40-90         = 3.25 Straight. ?on length

32-40 win= 32 - 2 1/2, this numbering was on a Hepburn Tony Maddox has.
  

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Reply #2 - Oct 8th, 2025 at 4:01pm
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40-65.WCF 2 1/10
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 8th, 2025 at 5:35pm
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Oldbee wrote on Oct 7th, 2025 at 6:17pm:
Is there a chart that converts calibers like 45-70 to 45-2 1/10?
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A chamber cast would tell you a lot, but IIRC .45/70 Gov't and .45-2.1" are different names for the same cartridge.
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 9th, 2025 at 2:27am
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32-40 Marlin & Ballard = 2 1/10. 

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One of the best gun books ever published. Tons of information. Easy to read print. Cheaper and takes up less space than a PC and way better in bed.  Smiley
  

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Reply #6 - Oct 9th, 2025 at 7:45pm
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As good as CoTW is, don't take it all as gospel. It has it's share of misprints or mistakes. Still better than anything else similar.
  

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Reply #7 - Oct 10th, 2025 at 6:36am
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Thank you all for your input to this thread.  I am headed to the Syracuse gun show next Saturday and will be looking for a copy of  Cartridges of the World.
My interest in this subject was inspired by a Remington Hepburn a local gun shop has.  The rifle was marked as a Remington Ballard, 50 ca.  The bbl was marked 40-2 1/2.  I told the owner it was a Hepburn and I thought it was a 40-82, but was not sure.
  

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There are lots of copies on ebay.
  
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Reply #9 - Oct 10th, 2025 at 8:59am
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For the .50 calibers 
.50 1- 3/4"   is  .50-70 
.50 2- 1/2"  is  .50-90   and 
.50 3- 1/4"  is  .50-140 
For the Winchester  .50 calibers they didn't go by case length just powder charge weight and the  .50-140 is actually a Winchester developed cartridge. It was mainly sharps that went by case length and others like Remington when they chambered the rifle for a sharps developed caliber.
  
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Re: conversion chart for calibers such s 45-2-1/10
Reply #10 - Oct 10th, 2025 at 9:34am
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Oldbee wrote on Oct 10th, 2025 at 6:36am:
Thank you all for your input to this thread.  I am headed to the Syracuse gun show next Saturday and will be looking for a copy of  Cartridges of the World.
My interest in this subject was inspired by a Remington Hepburn a local gun shop has.  The rifle was marked as a Remington Ballard, 50 ca.  The bbl was marked 40-2 1/2.  I told the owner it was a Hepburn and I thought it was a 40-82, but was not sure.


.40-2 1/2 marking on a Remington should be .40-70 Sharps Straight.
When it comes to Remington markings a conversion chart might not always help as their markings can be somewhat vague at times. For instance a marking could be just ".44" on the barrel, and could be anything from a .44 Long to a .44-77SBN. Or a ".38" could be .38 Long, .38 Extra Long, or even .38-55 chamber. On occasion their markings are very accurate, then other times too vague to know without a chamber cast.
Of course these days after 130-140 years I'd never trust the markings anyway as these guns could easily be reworked over all that time.
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