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Trying to value a Remington shorter rolling block
Aug 31st, 2025 at 1:10pm
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[tr][/tr]I have a Remington model 1 rolling block in .45-70 that I'm trying to figure out a retail value for. Condition wise is pretty good for it's age. The barrel and action have turned to patina  but the wood is in nice condition. It's a standard sporter model with a 30" octagon barrel in .45-70 that has a perfect bore. The stocks are in nice condition for something built in 1871. No cracks,chips, or really bad bings.the hammer , trigger, breach block and pins are still blued. Not to mention it has a single set trigger. I'm thinking about selling it because I can't get use to the stock angle. I'm use to shooting a sharps and l can't get a cheek weld that l like for offhand shooting. 
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Re: Trying to value a Remington shorter rolling block
Reply #1 - Aug 31st, 2025 at 2:10pm
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Pictures?
“Perfect bore” has it been relined?
Has the rifle been reconditioned?


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Reply #2 - Aug 31st, 2025 at 3:37pm
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I'm aware of only one that sounds similar to your rifle which was sold fairly recently by Ron Peterson Firearms(Ron is a contributor/collaborator to Tom Rowe's and Roy Marcot's books).
Ron sold it for $2500. Goodman guns has a 45-70 Whitney-Laidley Rolling Block on Guns International for $3250 which is probably a rarer gun.
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 31st, 2025 at 3:56pm
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I wish l knew how to post pictures the only real negative about the rifle is the rear sight is a current production marbles full buckhorn sight. As near as l can tell looking with a magnifying glass it's not a reline.
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 31st, 2025 at 4:48pm
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1Hawkeye,
What does the Remington address say on top of the barrel?
And does it have the caliber designation in front of the fore arm on the bottom of the barrel?

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Reply #5 - Aug 31st, 2025 at 6:30pm
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The address on the barrel is just a single line. E. Remington and sons Illion NY if I remember right and the caliber is on the underside of the barrel in front of the forend tip it's stamped 45   70
The upper tang doesn't have the usual markings it's blank and not drilled for a tang sight.
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 31st, 2025 at 7:06pm
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Early Remington Rolling Blocks often weren't drilled for a tang sight, and often didn't have upper tang markings on Sporting rifles so they could drill for tang sights and not hurt the stamp.
It's really going to be tough to guesstimate the value on your Rolling Block without pictures. I see quite a variety of prices on these wonderful Sporters, and as cheap as $1000 to 3x-4x that. A lot depends on condition, and options, but also on what the seller thinks theirs is worth. 
No way to compare it to the Whitney-Laidley as those get much more than an equal condition Remington. As mentioned they're much rarer, so values are higher.
  
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Reply #7 - Sep 1st, 2025 at 4:00pm
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Vall old boy, as long as we're waiting on the OP for a follow up picture, price this one for me. 40-70 BN, 28 inch barrel. Unmolested rifle. Not drilled and tapped for a sight and no Remington stamp on the tangs. Good bore, not bad enough to line. Or re-line, or, or...
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 1st, 2025 at 4:37pm
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There you go, Hawkeye. Does it look like Wes's?
  
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Re: Trying to value a Remington shorter rolling block
Reply #9 - Sep 1st, 2025 at 6:12pm
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westerner wrote on Sep 1st, 2025 at 4:00pm:
Vall old boy, as long as we're waiting on the OP for a follow up picture, price this one for me. 40-70 BN, 28 inch barrel. Unmolested rifle. Not drilled and tapped for a sight and no Remington stamp on the tangs. Good bore, not bad enough to line. Or re-line, or, or...


That's also a set trigger Roller, which adds significantly to it's value over single non set. In the condition, and chambering, and a decent shooting bore I'd expect to see it around $2k range, maybe a bit more asking price.
  
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Reply #10 - Sep 1st, 2025 at 10:41pm
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Yes it's the same model as that one except for the rear sight and the one in the photo is in better condition on the metal.
  
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Re: Trying to value a Remington shorter rolling block
Reply #11 - Sep 1st, 2025 at 11:07pm
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Don't shoot my rifle much. Must be thirty years since I shot it. Like mentioned they don't hold well and mine doesn't have target sights on it.  It's one of them rifles that's to good to alter and not good enough to shoot in matches. I should kill something with it. Maybe sell it. No, that would flood the market and drive prices down. Once in a while I drag it out to show a friend my old Buffler rifle. With duplex loads it really rattles the rafters when teched off. Annoying..,, hmmm...

If you can email your pictures to just about anyone on here they can post for you.
  
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Re: Trying to value a Remington shorter rolling block
Reply #12 - Sep 1st, 2025 at 11:52pm
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If the exsiting stock is actually the issue he can replace it with a pistol grip stock.
And keep the original stock to retain it's historical value.
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Re: Trying to value a Remington shorter rolling block
Reply #13 - Sep 2nd, 2025 at 10:22am
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Replacing the stock with a pistol grip stock will require either bending the factory lower tang, or buying a new factory pistol grip lower tang, new mainspring, and fitting it to the receiver. Numrich has pistol grip lower tangs brand new from the 1997 run Remington did and I've bought 3 of them to use on builds. That's the easiest way, and retains the stock parts to keep if someone wants to return it to original.

The biggest issue with most factory straight grip Rolling Block rifles is the buttplate. It's too small, and too narrow. It really transfers recoil to the shooter. Some were ordered with a shotgun hard rubber or steel buttplate and those are much larger, and feel better.

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Re: Trying to value a Remington shorter rolling block
Reply #14 - Sep 2nd, 2025 at 3:57pm
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NOT if you buy the CPA one slotted so you do not have to bend the tang - as per picture above.
  
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