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freebird Full Member Online Posts: 131 Location: South West France Joined: Sep 12^th, 2014	Palmer carbine and Palmer Prototype Sep 2^nd, 2025 at 12:22pm	Print Post
	Hello, Would any of you be able to help me put my hands on a copy of the W. Palmer Patent (Dec 23rd 1863) for the breech loading gun he presented to the US governement in 1864 and got him a contract for 1000 Carbines. I am also looking for a picture and/or any information on the prototype(s) that was presented to the US Gvt in 1864. Many thanks in advance.


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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1358 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Palmer carbine and Palmer Prototype Reply #1 - Sep 2^nd, 2025 at 1:38pm	Print Post
	You need to double-check that patent date because NO patents were issued on 12/23/1853; instead, the issuing date that week was 12/22. Bill Lawrence


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craigster Oldtimer Offline Posts: 748 Location: lost coast CA Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: Palmer carbine and Palmer Prototype Reply #2 - Sep 2^nd, 2025 at 8:50pm	Print Post
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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3774 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Palmer carbine and Palmer Prototype Reply #3 - Sep 2^nd, 2025 at 9:21pm	Print Post
	Interesting carbine- many of them in our Civil War. What got my attention was the gob of beautiful Lugers in that case just behind him. Gotta be some really scarce items in a herd that size. Thanks for the video link.


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freebird Full Member Online Posts: 131 Location: South West France Joined: Sep 12^th, 2014	Re: Palmer carbine and Palmer Prototype Reply #4 - Sep 3^rd, 2025 at 5:30am	Print Post
	MrTipUp wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2025 at 1:38pm: You need to double-check that patent date because NO patents were issued on 12/23/1853; instead, the issuing date that week was 12/22. Bill Lawrence The patent date is 1863, not 53. As marked on the receiver of Palmer carbines. I have already explored youtube and general information on this carbine. I'm trying to get the patent description and drawing, and any information pertaining to the prototype(s). Edit: found a better picture, and the date is Dec 22nd, 1863. Managed to find the patent number 41 017.
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Bnelson Full Member Offline Posts: 183 Location: Lower Michigan Joined: Jan 5^th, 2009	Re: Palmer carbine and Palmer Prototype Reply #5 - Sep 3^rd, 2025 at 8:15am	Print Post
	Here is the patent drawing. Bruce

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freebird Full Member Online Posts: 131 Location: South West France Joined: Sep 12^th, 2014	Re: Palmer carbine and Palmer Prototype Reply #6 - Sep 3^rd, 2025 at 11:50am	Print Post
	Many thanks Bruce. I'd had no luck so far finding it, even with the right date and the patent number


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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1358 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Palmer carbine and Palmer Prototype Reply #7 - Sep 3^rd, 2025 at 8:37pm	Print Post
	I'm sorry to have fat-fingered the patent year when making my comment. The year was indeed 1863. (Blush, blush!) Bil Lawrence


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freebird Full Member Online Posts: 131 Location: South West France Joined: Sep 12^th, 2014	Re: Palmer carbine and Palmer Prototype Reply #8 - Today at 4:46am	Print Post
	Oh I had misread the marking on the gun anyway... you were right about the Dec 22nd date! Where could I find more information on the prototype of this carbine?


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