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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3288 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	I don't Get It Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 6:39pm	Print Post
	I am stuck. I have never been a big conventional scope guy, and this one came on a high wall I got today. I removed the rear ring which was held by side screws and the two screws indicated by the lack lines. There is another screw that goes into the barrel (white arrow) but is under the front scope ring. What I can't figure out is how to remove that from ring bottom piece. The portion directly under the ring is not touching the long part of the base so the front portion (fat white arrow) is holding it on. I have tried some gentle tapping but nothing. Any ideas?

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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2217 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: I don't Get It Reply #1 - Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 6:47pm	Print Post
	it twists 90°

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rifleman Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 310 Joined: Aug 4^th, 2015	Re: I don't Get It Reply #2 - Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 6:48pm	Print Post
	It twists out after a 90 degree turn. Put a padddd crescent wrench tomit and turn it counter clockwise a quarter turn and it will pull straigh out.


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2217 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: I don't Get It Reply #3 - Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 6:52pm	Print Post
	Easiest way, a short piece of 1" round bar, clamp in like the scope and turn.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3288 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: I don't Get It Reply #4 - Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 6:57pm	Print Post
	Thanks. I looked at some photos and figured that out too. Interesting system I guess. I will probably leave it on and just use conventional scopes instead of D&Ting for Unertl style mounts. Too bad they drilled a hole in the top of the receiver. Ain't this forum great! Thanks guys.

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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1834 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: I don't Get It Reply #5 - Aug 24^th, 2025 at 12:08am	Print Post
	That hole can be filled if you so desire. I once had a small Martini someone mounted a receiver sight on that a guy fixed for me. He used a piece of flat brass material as a backer and TIG welded them using coat hanger as a filler. When refinished you couldn't tell. JMH


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WCFMetalsmith Participating Member Offline Posts: 46 Location: Washington state Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011	Re: I don't Get It Reply #6 - Aug 24^th, 2025 at 9:58am	Print Post
	That front scope ring is a Extension type, meant to move the ring portion offset, in this case for better/proper eye relief. In this case due to the two parts silver soldered together, a close fitting wrench on the front flats work the best in removing the front ring section from the base I put my share of them on years ago on certain long action bolt rifles. WCF


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3288 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: I don't Get It Reply #7 - Aug 24^th, 2025 at 11:24am	Print Post
	I have a pair of pliers with what looks like Delrin jaws that worked fine to rotate the front ring. The downside of this mount is the scope will need to be ‘permanently’ installed unlike my Lyman and Unertl ones. Time will tell if I keep it this way or install traditional scope blocks.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17117 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: I don't Get It Reply #8 - Aug 24^th, 2025 at 12:13pm	Print Post
	Too bad you don't have an old long tube sight to fit on it Jack!

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3288 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: I don't Get It Reply #9 - Aug 24^th, 2025 at 12:25pm	Print Post
	I had one here a couple of days ago. Not sure where it went. If you see it let me know . It had a good home now.

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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1911 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: I don't Get It Reply #10 - Aug 24^th, 2025 at 7:32pm	Print Post
	Jack that style mount allows you to adjust windage Incase the screw holes were not drilled correctly.


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3288 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: I don't Get It Reply #11 - Aug 24^th, 2025 at 8:27pm	Print Post
	I did read about that feature. I like the strength of the mount. My only issue is it will take up more room in one of my smallish safes. I might just keep it in my sons’s stack-on safe. Time to figure out a load and dig out the dies and brass. I do have some 50 year old factory ammo that was for my Win 94. I should shoot some of that.

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Bulseyetom Oldtimer Offline Posts: 988 Location: Santa Maria, Ca Joined: Oct 31^st, 2010	Re: I don't Get It Reply #12 - Aug 24^th, 2025 at 10:41pm	Print Post
	What caliber is that shooting iron? I have used 3x power scopes on some of my rifles so that I can mount them as far to the rear as possible for better eye relief. Tom


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3288 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: I don't Get It Reply #13 - Aug 25^th, 2025 at 12:22pm	Print Post
	It is a 30-30 high wall. The scope is a cheaper one built by Weaver in 4x. I found one that sold for $32 recently. The mount does allow for good eye relief. I do have some better scopes including a 10x Lyman All American and a fair quality 20x Japanese Tasco

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