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Yes Joe. It is another parts gun!
Aug 23rd, 2025 at 6:08pm
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I couldn't resist the price at today's Oregon Arms Collectors show. One of only 2 Winchester Single Shots at the show.  The other was a nice 32-40 that EdBu had for sale.  This one is in 30-30, a caliber I don't have in a high wall, small shank, SST parts except for no fly in the hammer and an antique serial number.  It most likely was a .22 that has had the right wall cut down.  Funky stocks and a very good bore.  Inexpensive Challenger 4x Weaver scope.

This makes an even 20 Winchester Single Shots. 17 of which are high walls.  

I have my flame suit on Joe, so go ahead and criticize Smiley
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Reply #1 - Aug 23rd, 2025 at 7:01pm
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Good start on the numbers, someday though, you'll buy a Ballard and these will make/be trading stock... Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #2 - Aug 23rd, 2025 at 7:27pm
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Didn't you notice the two Ballards I had at Spokane? A heavy barrelled DST .22 and a short nickle plated DST 30 Wesson offhand rifle.  I do have 4 Ballards and that is probably enough.  I have to keep them in a different safes since they argue with the Winchesters very loudly, keeping me awake.
  

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Reply #3 - Aug 23rd, 2025 at 8:25pm
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I did, but it was an opportunity...

I just store my Sharps, Winchesters and Remingtons muzzle down in the safes so their whining is muted.
  

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Reply #4 - Aug 23rd, 2025 at 11:13pm
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Yer happy, Jack,  that's what's important. Interesting wood that butt stock. Mango? 🥭
  

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Reply #5 - Aug 23rd, 2025 at 11:18pm
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Maybe Mongo. I don’t know a knothole from a knothead

Only $700.  The guy had it marked  $850.  He turned out to be the guy I bought the .22 Hornet from last year

  

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Reply #6 - Aug 24th, 2025 at 12:03am
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bpjack wrote on Aug 23rd, 2025 at 11:18pm:
Maybe Mongo. I don’t know a knothole from a knothead

Only $700.  The guy had it marked  $850.  He turned out to be the guy I bought the .22 Hornet from last year



You got the repeat customer price Jack!
  

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Reply #7 - Aug 24th, 2025 at 11:14am
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I had seen photos of high walls with cut down right sides but never found one for sale. A couple of days ago one that was still a .22 sold on Gun Broker and then I found this one.  I do have 30-30 dies and a mould that should work for fixed ammo and another for breech seating.  Today I am going to replace the few set trigger parts and use them in my 32 RKS build when I get it back.
  

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bpjack wrote on Aug 24th, 2025 at 11:14am:
I had seen photos of high walls with cut down right sides but never found one for sale. A couple of days ago one that was still a .22 sold on Gun Broker and then I found this one.  I do have 30-30 dies and a mould that should work for fixed ammo and another for breech seating.  Today I am going to replace the few set trigger parts and use them in my 32 RKS build when I get it back.


Over 40 years ago I traded a Stevens 44 in .22LR for a High Wall varmint rifle in .22 Hornet with a JR Buhmiller marked barrel. Beautiful varmint type stocks in 3x wood, with a Model 70 checkered steel buttplate. It had the right side cut down, but not quite as far. A fun accurate High Wall, but I eventually sold or traded it. Can't even recall how it went away now? Probably for a Marlin or Ballard rifle.
  

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Reply #9 - Aug 24th, 2025 at 12:30pm
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It was unusual to say the least to see two of them come up for sale the same week.  I wouldn’t have minded getting the other one as well but was saving my $$$ for the show.  I was hoping for a nice original DST high wall in a desirable caliber like there were two years ago but nothing. Lots of Sharps and Hepburns this year.  Good to see you again 

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Reply #10 - Aug 24th, 2025 at 4:50pm
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It looks like someone had installed a lower tang complete with SST components without changing the hammer or sear.  I replaced the trigger so far but I don't have the weaker knockoff spring so the trigger pull is a bit stiff for now.  Now to make a 30-30 seater and bore sight the scope.
  

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Reply #11 - Aug 24th, 2025 at 5:34pm
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The best guess on the wood based on some image searches is that it is quilted maple.
  

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Reply #12 - Aug 24th, 2025 at 6:11pm
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Whatever the wood is, I don't think anyone would deny that it is very unique!
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 24th, 2025 at 6:52pm
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The buttstock and forearm would match better if the buttstock were darker or the forend lighter.   It fits in well as is with my other rifles.
  

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Reply #14 - Aug 27th, 2025 at 9:00pm
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Neat wood and a neat rifle!  Seems like a lot of nice single shots come from the Pacific Northwest!
  
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Reply #15 - Aug 27th, 2025 at 10:14pm
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A few of us are trying to bring more single shots to this corner of the country. Western Canada does its part as well there have been quite a few top shooters from around here.  Unfortunately the numbers keep dwindling. A couple of my high walls came from Bob Zimmerman and Chuck Bordman both great shots. Wes Turner came from here but wisely moved to a less crazy Stare
  

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Reply #16 - Aug 30th, 2025 at 5:08pm
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I finally took the 30-30 High Wall to the range today, sore back and all. I replaced the cheap 4x scope with a nice 10x Lyman All American with target turrets.  I was breech seating an Accurate 170L bullet that was fully engraved on all the bands, shooting at 100 yds.  I experimented with several powder charges of 4100 and a couple of seating depths. I haven't ordered a correct knockoff spring yet so with the SST spring the trigger pull was terrible.  Over all I was pleased with the results.  More load development ahead and some fixed ammo testing once my eBay dies show up.  Next step is to duplicate these group sizes at 200 yds.
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Reply #17 - Aug 30th, 2025 at 8:02pm
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After I got home I revisited the seating depth and found that I wasn't even engraving the base band. I had to modify my seater stem to allow me to adjust it deeper.  It appears that the chamber had a long throat.  The seater setting in the photo seats the bullet with less than 1/16" not engraved.  Next stop 200 yds.

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Reply #18 - Aug 30th, 2025 at 10:06pm
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30-30, so the twist is 10?
  

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Reply #19 - Aug 30th, 2025 at 10:14pm
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Either 10 or 12.  The first time I measured it it came out at 11.  I have a new rod coming that should be more accurate.

I tried shooting the DST 32-40 but even at 50 yds with the correct diameter black bull for my front circular aperture, it fuzzed out so bad the black would disappear.  That rifle is in the safe until after my cataract surgery. The post front aperture that came with it might have been better.  I need to see if I have a fatter post.
  

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Reply #20 - Aug 31st, 2025 at 8:35am
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"I have a new rod coming that should be more accurate."

Crackin me up, Jack.  Grin

A local smith round these parts has made stocks from Koa. They are very nice. They look a bit like curly maple.
  

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Reply #21 - Aug 31st, 2025 at 12:37pm
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It my fate in life to crack you up.  My cleaning rod handy doesn’t always spin freely. To help out Powder Balley, I bought a nice one with double bearings.
  

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Reply #22 - Aug 31st, 2025 at 10:34pm
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I had issues with the front sling swivel catching on the front rest bag and causing the rest to lift up.  Today I removed it and the barrel band it was screwed into and filled the hole with a brass insert.  With the seater adjusted deeper and the swivel gone it is time for some serious range work.  Now if I could just get my back better and my cataract surgery, I might get somewhere.
  

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Reply #23 - Sep 1st, 2025 at 12:00am
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My Borchardt 32-40 has a band like yours. Reminds me of something from the 1940-50s. Doesn't seem to effect its accuracy. No sling swivels to deal with.

The rifling marks left on your bullet look rough. Probly not a Shilen or RKS.
  

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