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Rolling block 32 rimfire conversion
Aug 18th, 2025 at 11:57am
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Ok I have a lead on what is an absolutely brand new number 4 rolling block takedown in 32 short/long rimfire. 

IF I purchased it, what are my least invasive options to shoot it, excluding scavenging original ammo, and using 22 blanks in special brass. 

Can I replace rf block with a centerfire, and without rechambering use a centerfire case? Which one?

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Re: Rolling block 32 rimfire conversion
Reply #1 - Aug 18th, 2025 at 12:00pm
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.32 colt.
  
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Re: Rolling block 32 rimfire conversion
Reply #2 - Aug 18th, 2025 at 1:10pm
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Took the words out of my mouth. .32 S&W brass is too larger in diameter to work though, not to mention the disparity in bore dimensions. 

.32 Colt brass/ammo has gotten to be about as rare and as expensive as .32 rimfire ammo though.

A conversion to centerfire is simple (I did it on a Stevens 44 by the simple expedient of swapping breechblocks), but then begins the hassle of either buying or making .32 Colt ammo. Brass can be made by swaging .32 S&W Long brass, a bit of a hassle and some specialized tools are needed. Bullets are the final hassle, correct heeled bullets aren't exactly common but molds can be had.

All that said, the same amount of time/energy that goes into fabricating .32 Colt stuff is really no different than the time/energy that goes into making rimfire-adapted centerfire cases. But of course for that you still need to start with .32 Colt brass, see above. Catch-22.

  
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Reply #3 - Aug 18th, 2025 at 1:16pm
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I have 300 new Winchester 32 short colt brass… so it sounds like I need a centerfire block
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 18th, 2025 at 1:34pm
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The .32RF Long accepts either .32 Colt Long or Short. Just need the block converted, and a mold for heeled base bullets.
  

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Reply #5 - Aug 18th, 2025 at 2:24pm
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The .32 Short Colt is too short to convert to using a blank unless you use acorn blanks. Then you need add propellant, blackpowder being the safest but messiest to clean up after. 
  If you have a lathe and the capability to use it, you can make the 32L RF cases from 32 S&W Longs but it is a big undertaking. Then you can use nail gun blanks (Level 2) as both primer and propellant.
  The molds are out there;
Accurate Molds 31-090S is a very good one and gives you options for choosing your dimensions and alloy. I don't know what current delivery is.
  Old West Moulds has 32 heel bullet molds also and a crimping die if you so desire.
  

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Reply #6 - Aug 18th, 2025 at 2:27pm
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I would use the 32 short colt brass as is, with a centerfire block. No blanks, I am avoiding all that
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 18th, 2025 at 4:57pm
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There was a gentleman who was forming down .32 S&W Long cases to make .32 Long CF and they were great. I've fooled around trying to make them before and wont ever spend that much time again. 
My molds are an NEI Walt made for me many decades ago, and an original Ideal mold for the heeled bullet. Both cast lightweight bullets for slower twist original barrels and shoot well in my Ballard #2.
I used to find a lot of .32 Long Colt ammo at local gun shows cheap, and since my Ballards could shoot CF or RF I bought both cheap. Most for under $10 per 50 then. Some CF didn't go bang due to age, but were fine to reload with. Most of the RF I later sold to a guy as a lump deal. The .32 Long rifles shoot excellent with good bores, and even better with loads of smokeless I worked up.
  

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Reply #8 - Aug 18th, 2025 at 5:15pm
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I use an Ideal #4 tool in 32 long Colt,which has the heeled bullet mold. They show up occasionally on ebay, which is where I bought mine. Old West Bullet molds has the heeled bullet molds and dies for the  .32 Colt, somewhat pricey though.
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 18th, 2025 at 6:04pm
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marlinguy wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 4:57pm:
There was a gentleman who was forming down .32 S&W Long cases to make .32 Long CF and they were great. I've fooled around trying to make them before and wont ever spend that much time again. 


Phil Way (uscra112) by any chance? I've used his technique to make .32 Colt brass. Once I had the swage die perfected and the protocol for finishing up in my Unimat worked out, the project went fast. I ended up making 100 cases. Then, on another forum, a pile of .32 Colt brass turned up which turned out to have been made by Phil before he passed. I smiled when I saw his name on the container. Certainly was a fun project. A heeled 85gr. bullet mold from Accurate rounded things out.

It's also a hoot making .32 RF's with acorn blanks. The only .32RF gun I have is a Frank Wesson Pocket Rifle, so it's not like I shoot it much and certainly don't wish to mess with it by converting to centerfire.

I sized the heel of the mold from Accurate to fit my brass with thumb pressure after firing in my chamber, and the major diameter to match the throat of my rifle. Load and shoot at the range.
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 18th, 2025 at 7:32pm
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I use one of the Ideal combination tools to produce ammunition for a Maynard barrel in .32 long rimfire. Be aware that you will probably have to trim your .32 LC brass to the much shorter length of the .32 long RF case to get it to chamber. 

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Good point. I have to do that for use in the Wesson.
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 18th, 2025 at 10:08pm
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To the best of my knowledge the #4 was never offered in a centerfire version. The #2 was available in both as was the #1 1/2. Maybe Kenn Womack can clear it up with a definite answer.
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 19th, 2025 at 10:31am
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Well Curt, then I would be looking at a modifying of original to centerfire.  Or I may say to hell with it and save myself a headache
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 19th, 2025 at 10:38am
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gnoahhh wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 6:04pm:
marlinguy wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 4:57pm:
There was a gentleman who was forming down .32 S&W Long cases to make .32 Long CF and they were great. I've fooled around trying to make them before and wont ever spend that much time again. 


Phil Way (uscra112) by any chance? I've used his technique to make .32 Colt brass. Once I had the swage die perfected and the protocol for finishing up in my Unimat worked out, the project went fast. I ended up making 100 cases. Then, on another forum, a pile of .32 Colt brass turned up which turned out to have been made by Phil before he passed. I smiled when I saw his name on the container. Certainly was a fun project. A heeled 85gr. bullet mold from Accurate rounded things out.

It's also a hoot making .32 RF's with acorn blanks. The only .32RF gun I have is a Frank Wesson Pocket Rifle, so it's not like I shoot it much and certainly don't wish to mess with it by converting to centerfire.

I sized the heel of the mold from Accurate to fit my brass with thumb pressure after firing in my chamber, and the major diameter to match the throat of my rifle. Load and shoot at the range.


Don't know the seller, but it wasn't Phil Way.
  

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