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Reply #30 - Sep 10th, 2025 at 1:16am
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Another project to add to the 25…  Idle time waiting on a machine to finish cutting causes the mind to race.   
On one of my last Ballard builds, Ol’Lucky serial number 6777, I put a butt plate originally designed for a muzzle loader on it, a bronze casting I picked up from Track of the Wolf.  I really like the fit and feel of this one and I have ones similar to it on more than one of my Ballard builds, but there is a problem with it.  It qualifies as a “hooked” butt plate and some of the disciplines I compete in don’t allow that.  So rather than do something drastic like cut the hook off or try to make another non hook try to fit this, I thought maybe a pewter pour was in order.  I was running a little short on pewter and a roll of 95-5 is expensive.   I dug through my stashes and discovered I had quite a stock of babbit, from my bearing days.  Babbit pours fairly well just below 500°, so I thought I’d give it a whirl.  Here's pics of both now.
  

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Reply #31 - Sep 10th, 2025 at 1:21am
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I used an acetylene torch and smoked the face and fits of the stock and the single screw with hopes it’d make removal a little easier.  I made a wooden plug for the stock bolt hole and set it about a ¼” below flush.  In the same fashion as the forend cap I cut a cereal box up and used masking tape for the form dam.  There was a little runaway on the babbit but the biggest challenge was getting fill on the curved surface without having to put an inch in the pour.  The pics show I came up short in the heel area and had to puddle a little additional in, no harm, no foul.  The plate holds fast with only a screw, and it does remove with gentle tapping, the question will be – how well will it hold up. 
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Reply #32 - Sep 10th, 2025 at 7:38am
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Amazing...




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Reply #33 - Sep 10th, 2025 at 11:40am
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Greg, I remember we had this conversation in Greeley about an interchangeable buttplate.  I wanted to do this on my current build but decided against it because of the fitting issue.

Well, then, leave it to you to come up with an option!  Wish I had your “out of the box” thinking sometimes!

I would think it will hold up just fine, the babbit, even with lubrication, gets pounded pretty hard in an engine and lasts just fine.
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Reply #34 - Sep 10th, 2025 at 1:20pm
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Bob, 
The through bolt hole was a biggy on this, it made a means of removing the plate the first time, I poured it with the stock off the rifle, gentle tapping with a dowel through the stock made initial removal easy.  The cast plug offers a solid means of fitting the plate too.  I see one of these on a couple more Ballards and a Borchardt.
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Reply #35 - Sep 10th, 2025 at 1:28pm
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GT wrote on Sep 10th, 2025 at 1:20pm:
Bob, 
The through bolt hole was a biggy on this, it made a means of removing the plate the first time, I poured it with the stock off the rifle, gentle tapping with a dowel through the stock made initial removal easy.  The cast plug offers a solid means of fitting the plate too.  I see one of these on a couple more Ballards and a Borchardt.
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That hole is a “biggy” for sure! And not just for removal.  I would warn anyone trying this that if that hole isn’t plugged tight they will probably have a real mess on their hand in the front end. Smiley
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Reply #36 - Sep 10th, 2025 at 3:37pm
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Greg,
My first Ballard had an aluminum double prong buttplate and I was contemplating cutting the top prong off, but decided to make a copy using casting resin.  I made a mould and poured one, cut off the top prong and painted it black.  It worked well until it sat prong down in my safe in the hot summer as the prong ended up bent almost flat Smiley
  

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