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Jul 31st, 2025 at 9:39am
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As my post title states, it's either going to be 25 projects that I share, or projects in '25... Wink

For openers, I'm revisiting a project that I started some time ago but never finished, was it in '23 or '24, I don't recall, it's been a blur.  It's one of the Storie Worn Ballard castings.  Originally I planned to make the one I had into a 22rf but plans change.  I purchased a few of the Worn castings before Rodney quit this venture and there's one a bit different that will be my 22rf.  Maybe it will be one of the 25 posted here.  The new caliber choice for this action at the moment is going to be a 25-21SS, (another 25 to go with the post title) Here's pics of a dash back to the breech block build and forward to current action status.  The plan is for it to wear a GM barrel, one that was already run through the mill last winter, I think.

Along the way I picked up a 25-21SS reamer and dies but not much for brass.  I think 20 pieces were purchased from RMC but I guard those close being the tite-wad I am.  I've turned a few from stock for one of my other rifles and I've traveled down the road of nibbing cases in the lathe, it's all labor intensive with marginal results.   
I bought a batch of 223 Basic brass from Starline in the past  and dabbled with them making 25-20SS but never got the sequences right for a good case.
I returned to George Nonte's book a few nights ago studying his description for lengthening brass cartridges.  He explains his method of enlarging the brass and using for lack of a better word, venturi effect to extrude it.  I spent a few late evening recently and tried several different methods, finally getting one to work.  There is a pile of scrap getting to the ends, but here's a few pics showing the dies I came up with.  At the base is a ring, that has the "venturi" cut in it, a punch that presses brass into that ring, a spacer that holds the punch at it's critical location and then a pusher rod that moves the brass through the ring.   
Pushing the Basic brass one time through I get a length increase of .100".  When the brass is swaged into the 7mm mauser die to start the initial 25-21 forming process it grows another .085".  In the final stages of forming in the 25-21 die itself, another .075" is gained in length.  From the original Basic  223 brass it makes a case for my 25-21SS that falls short of spec by only .025".  For now, I plan to shoot this cartridge breech seated and it's going to work fine for me.   
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Reply #1 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 11:54pm
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Looking forward to it Mr Greg. I am all over anything you post. Tremendous amount of skill and knowledge in your builds. I am really interested in the tooling and swaging aspect of the obsolete stuff you do. I have a 10ga shotgun I am working on now restoring.That and my Hepburn 22 accuracy problem. I have RMC brass shells I purchased from Tony Maddox that are going to need sizing. I found out quickly it is going to take some tonnage to do it. Working on a swaging die now. Can't wait to see what you do...



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Reply #2 - Aug 13th, 2025 at 12:48am
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Next project of 25...
My 44-2.5 Ballard has dished me fits at the most inopportune times, all because of the triggers... I had to finish one match a while ago by holding the hammer back with my thumb, wait for a good sight picture and let my thumb slide off the hammer, not a favorable condition for the offhand game.  My close couple set that I made for this rifle have failed, not once, but twice and on the second time around I couldn't seem to revived them.  Cycling them about 5000 times who'd have thought they'd be so problematic.  So for this rifle, I decided to change it up a little from my normal and make a single trigger, no setting or anything.
I scratched a design of what I thought a single should look like on a piece of 1/4 x 3/4" A2 tool steel and milled it up close to the line.  A little time with a file and I think it's going to work.  Drill some more holes, a little more tweaking, a small wire spring, a couple of screws and I'll be ready for the next match.
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Reply #3 - Aug 13th, 2025 at 10:53am
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That's a nice action on the Ballard Greg!
  

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Reply #4 - Aug 13th, 2025 at 11:58am
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Don’t forget to build a 28 G&H with the reamer that I paid for Smiley
  

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Reply #5 - Aug 13th, 2025 at 12:08pm
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Jack,
The 28 G&H short is in the works, same reamer, only using the Max case and stopping short.  Going to be another one of those Ballards that I started with a cartridge in mind, pulled that barrel before it ever went bang...  Does have one of my striker breech blocks in it and some ugly wood.
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Reply #6 - Aug 13th, 2025 at 12:38pm
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So I guess I will have to call mine a 28 G&H long.  I have been laid up since Spokane with a sore back and haven’t had a chance to shoot it at the lower velocity. The one trip to the range with it was a bust since I left the seater at home. 

Looks like my cataract surgery won’t happen until December at the earliest. Assuming that goes well, I will have no excuse to get the DST high wall shooting well since Wes has a hit man on retainer to off me should I try and install scope blocks on it. 

  

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Reply #7 - Aug 20th, 2025 at 12:09am
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A little time this evening and the latest trigger design is done, hopefully a little more durable than some of my previous ones.  Case hardened and installed, breaks pleasant at one pound.
  

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Reply #8 - Aug 20th, 2025 at 9:55am
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Here's a couple pics of the next Ballard in my line-up, need a (really comfortable) offhand 22... Is there such a thing?  Whittled out a hammer configuration breech block for it one evening this week, it originally had a Worn Striker design in the package so it will probably end up with both.  The last pic compares the Worn dimensions to the original (Toe).
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Reply #9 - Aug 20th, 2025 at 11:50am
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GT wrote on Aug 20th, 2025 at 12:09am:
A little time this evening and the latest trigger design is done, hopefully a little more durable than some of my previous ones.  Case hardened and installed, breaks pleasant at one pound. 


Greg, I see a screw hole behind the trigger like a set trigger might use.  Is this a new set trigger design?
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Reply #10 - Aug 21st, 2025 at 10:20am
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Bob,
The rear screw hole is for the travel limiter and the front hole is for the spring.  Nothing sets on this design.  It's copying the Worn trigger, a screw with a thin, unslotted head top side with the threaded shank where it goes through the trigger plate slotted for adjustment.  The front hole is intended for a simple wire spring that rides on the trigger but so far it isn't needed.  My sear design has just enough spring and no part of the trigger engages the sear until it's pulled.  There's enough tension on the sear to keep the hammer engaged but enough tail length and long enough lever built into the trigger that a short motion and no effort on the trigger releases the hammer.  All this accidently worked out, but it's working better than I anticipated.
  

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Reply #11 - Aug 21st, 2025 at 12:03pm
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Thanks, Now I remember the trigger!
  

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Reply #12 - Aug 21st, 2025 at 12:42pm
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A couple more op's done to the bronze Ballard early this morning... squared up the recoil shoulder and machined the recess for the butt stock.  Make some more internal parts for this breechblock and fit up a barrel then it's more  Smileywood
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Reply #13 - Aug 23rd, 2025 at 12:19am
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Plodding along a little tonight.  Did a rough grind on the mystery lever, it fits in the action now.  Drill a few holes tomorrow and start contouring the lever - maybe. 
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Reply #14 - Aug 23rd, 2025 at 8:39am
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This mystery lever looks pretty interesting. How was it cut out?
  
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