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Lugged vs regular hammer on Stevens
Yesterday at 9:52pm
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Can someone post a picture that shows the difference between the two.
  
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Re: Lugged vs regular hammer on Stevens
Reply #1 - yesterday at 10:47pm
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Here is an old detaied thread discussinh lugged hammers.

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and a drawing from that thread showing the lug engaging the block.
  

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Reply #2 - yesterday at 11:49pm
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You forgot to turn on the lights
  

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So, to educate this Stevens 44 owner with a non-lugged hammer, what is the purpose or benefits of a lugged hammer?

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Reply #4 - Today at 12:33pm
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texasmac wrote Today at 12:19pm:
So, to educate this Stevens 44 owner with a non-lugged hammer, what is the purpose or benefits of a lugged hammer?

Wayne

In simplest words it adds another pin the share the load of firing pressure. 
The block is supported by the lug, so the hammer pin also takes the hit along with the lever pin.
  
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Reply #5 - Today at 12:44pm
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Dellet wrote Today at 12:33pm:
texasmac wrote Today at 12:19pm:
So, to educate this Stevens 44 owner with a non-lugged hammer, what is the purpose or benefits of a lugged hammer?

Wayne

In simplest words it adds another pin the share the load of firing pressure. 
The block is supported by the lug, so the hammer pin also takes the hit along with the lever pin.


Dellet,

Thanks.  That makes sense.  So I assume lugged hammers are only found on 44&1/2 receivers since the 44 is not designed for higher pressure loads.  And fitting is critical.  I.e, the top of the hardened lug should be in contact with the block when fired.

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Reply #6 - Today at 12:57pm
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Wayne, the 44 1/2 is a different animal altogether and requires no lug. The 44s that had the lug were only on ones chambered in 32-40 and 38-55 I believe. Nowadays the 44 would not be considered suitable for those calibers though some on the list have and shoot them but with careful loads.
  
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Reply #7 - Today at 1:18pm
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oneatatime wrote Today at 12:57pm:
Wayne, the 44 1/2 is a different animal altogether and requires no lug. The 44s that had the lug were only on ones chambered in 32-40 and 38-55 I believe. Nowadays the 44 would not be considered suitable for those calibers though some on the list have and shoot them but with careful loads.


oneatatime,

Thanks for the additional details.  But the photo of the rifle with the lugged hammer posted by bpjack is a 44&1/2.  Hence my assumption, but you know what they say about assumptions.

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Reply #8 - Today at 1:28pm
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texasmac wrote Today at 1:18pm:
oneatatime wrote Today at 12:57pm:
Wayne, the 44 1/2 is a different animal altogether and requires no lug. The 44s that had the lug were only on ones chambered in 32-40 and 38-55 I believe. Nowadays the 44 would not be considered suitable for those calibers though some on the list have and shoot them but with careful loads.


oneatatime,

Thanks for the additional details.  But the photo of the rifle with the lugged hammer posted by bpjack is a 44&1/2.  Hence my assumption, but you know what they say about assumptions.

Wayne

That’s a 44 with double set triggers, note the angle of the face of the block. A 44 1/2 would be almost parallel to the breech.

The lugged hammer also showed up on some 28-30’s
  
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Re: Lugged vs regular hammer on Stevens
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Dellet wrote Today at 1:28pm:
texasmac wrote Today at 1:18pm:
oneatatime wrote Today at 12:57pm:
Wayne, the 44 1/2 is a different animal altogether and requires no lug. The 44s that had the lug were only on ones chambered in 32-40 and 38-55 I believe. Nowadays the 44 would not be considered suitable for those calibers though some on the list have and shoot them but with careful loads.


oneatatime,
Thanks for the additional details.  But the photo of the rifle with the lugged hammer posted by bpjack is a 44&1/2.  Hence my assumption, but you know what they say about assumptions.

Wayne

That’s a 44 with double set triggers, note the angle of the face of the block. A 44 1/2 would be almost parallel to the breech.
The lugged hammer also showed up on some 28-30’s


Dellet,

Thanks for setting me straight.  I looked at the photos again & see the block is rotated back, not dropped, which I missed.  I initially only looked at the screw locations. An assumption bit me again.  Roll Eyes

Wayne
  

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Reply #10 - Today at 1:50pm
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Wayne, there is something weird about that second photo. I doubt that hammer could even reach the firing pin on a 44 1/2.
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