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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1770 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	How to breech seat Yesterday at 9:17pm	Print Post
	I have been reloading for 50 years and have never tried breech seating. Can anyone suggest a good read or video on the subject? I have several guns I can experiment with just don't know how to get started. JMH


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 3150 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: How to breech seat Reply #1 - yesterday at 10:07pm	Print Post
	An excellent reference is “ Loading and Shooting Traditional American Schuetzen Rifles” by our own Randy Wright. Basically you shove a bullet into the chamber seat it partially into the rifling with a plugged case, or a push seater or mechanical seater. Insert a freshly primed case with an appropriate powder charge and shoot. Repeat as necessary

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JerryH Frequent Elocutionist Online ASSRA Member #10876 Posts: 1280 Location: Easton, CA Joined: Nov 9^th, 2014	Re: How to breech seat Reply #2 - yesterday at 11:24pm	Print Post
	I will second buying Randy Wright's book. It is very informative and has excellent illustrations.

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RSW Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1239 Location: Arizona Joined: Sep 8^th, 2006	Re: How to breech seat Reply #3 - Today at 12:39am	Print Post
	jhm The illustration below shows how to breech seat a bullet. Obviously there is a lot more to it but it shows the concept.

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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1770 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: How to breech seat Reply #4 - Today at 1:37am	Print Post
	Ok I have the basic's now. I can make the tools I will need and I see the concept. One question. When you charge the case with powder do you use a wad of some sort to hold it in place and not spill out? I have a 32-40 Hepburn I want to try first. Where can I find Mr Wright's book? JMH


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JerryH Frequent Elocutionist Online ASSRA Member #10876 Posts: 1280 Location: Easton, CA Joined: Nov 9^th, 2014	Re: How to breech seat Reply #5 - Today at 1:56am	Print Post
	Send a PM to RSW here on the forum. That will get you to Randy Wright so you can buy his book. I would avoid using a wad if possible.

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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1770 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: How to breech seat Reply #6 - Today at 8:26am	Print Post
	See I have a lot to learn. My Hepburn I know can do better. I am just not getting the accuracy with fixed ammo I know it is capable of so breech seating is the next step. Will contact RSW. JMH


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Oakdale Junior Member Offline Posts: 74 Location: Maplewood, MN Joined: Jun 7^th, 2017	Re: How to breech seat Reply #7 - Today at 9:27am	Print Post
	Is there an accuracy impact if you are using a 0.030” thick veggie wad? Maybe if the wad is not seated (just barely into the case mouth) perfectly perpendicular to axis of the case? Tom


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16878 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: How to breech seat Reply #8 - Today at 9:53am	Print Post
	I've never had a reason to need a wad. With smokeless powders the charge is small enough that unless you pointed the case downhill it's never going to come out. I simply charge the case and insert it into the chamber. You will find out that in most instances your fixed load isn't going to be enough powder when breach seated. Because of the greater case capacity it's going to take a bit more powder to get the same velocities as fixed bullets get.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 3150 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: How to breech seat Reply #9 - Today at 11:04am	Print Post
	The only time I use a wad is when I am using short cases like my 25 Hornet and 32 Miller Short. They tend to spill powder into the chamber especially in a high wall action. Not done for accuracy reasons. Jack

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1Hawkeye Full Member Online Posts: 156 Location: South end of Northern Virginia Joined: Jun 29^th, 2019	Re: How to breech seat Reply #10 - Today at 11:20am	Print Post
	I also am interested in breach seating but have a question with black powder do you have to worry about a gap between the wad and the base of the bullet?


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.22-5-40 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 815 Joined: Feb 13^th, 2010	Re: How to breech seat Reply #11 - Today at 12:35pm	Print Post
	In my .32-40 Stevens-Pope barraled Ballard, I am using Swiss 1 1/2 FG, breech seating a tapered BACO copy of Pope bullet. I couldn,t get consistant accuracy until I tried Steve Garbys suggestion of using a lubricated felt .32 Wonder Wad seated against bullet base after breach seating bullet. Groups tightened up and are consistant. I can feel case mouth contact and slightly compress felt wad as action closed.


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