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Kansas Highwall Participating Member Offline Posts: 21 Joined: Oct 12^th, 2023	long barreled single shot rifle Jul 12^th, 2025 at 9:17pm	Print Post
	I know the H&R 1871 Buffalo Classic in 45/70 sports a 32 inch barrel but I read somewhere of a 34 inch barrel single shot but can't seem to locate it again. Any help provided would be appreciated. My 1885 Highwall has a 28 inch barrel. I can only imagine a rifle with 6 more inches!


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TomKlinger Full Member Offline Posts: 131 Location: Central Florida Joined: Feb 17^th, 2019	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #1 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 6:57am	Print Post
	Most of the original Creedmoor rifles had 34” barrels…. Tom Klinger


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Drydock Newbie Offline Posts: 8 Joined: May 20^th, 2025	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #2 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 9:42am	Print Post
	The Quigley Sharps has a 34" barrel. Both Shiloh and C Sharps have sold many 34" rifles. My 1877 is a 32"


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16884 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #3 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 9:49am	Print Post
	I have probably six singleshot rifles with 34" barrels. A Ballard #7 Long-Range, Ballard Offhand, Remington Rolling Block Creedmoor, Hepburn Match B, another Hepburn Sporting Rifle, and some other rolling Block and Ballard rifles with 34" barrels. 34" barrels aren't common, but they were standard on certain models, and special order on many more. I've always been attracted to long barrels on singleshot rifles.

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830singleshot Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 439 Location: Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2007	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #4 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 11:03am	Print Post
	Here's mine. Original Winchester 1885 38-55 with a #5 barrel, 36" long. My son will be 27 and a daddy in the next couple of months!

	J. Scott McCash&&New Braunfels, TX&&830-237-2376&&jsmccash@yahoo.com
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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3725 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #5 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 2:35pm	Print Post
	830, that'n be a rifle for a real man to shoot. I have a pair of those with original barrels- a .32-40 with a #4 barrel of 32 inches and another in .30-40 having a #3 tube of 30 inches in length. Neither is a piece of cake offhand and of the two you can tell a huge difference. So, that very rare and ultra hefty rifle you have must be a doozy. I have seen but a few of them with three-foot barrels and none was a #5. Thanks for showing it


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830singleshot Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 439 Location: Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2007	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #6 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 3:08pm	Print Post
	Thanks for the kind words If memory serves me, the # 5 barrel at 36" was the largest and heaviest cataloged barrel available. I understand Winchester made a few not cataloged. FYI, the bore is still perfect

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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2885 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #7 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 4:31pm	Print Post
	My impression was that the long barrels were used for back position shooting at long range.


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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3725 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #8 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 4:52pm	Print Post
	I always figured the long tubes were for possible velocity increases or recoil dampening, but mostly to gain a more advantageous sighting radius. Every little bit helps. Only a handful of long barreled rifles I see bear any resemblance to a true long range target rifle and have no provision for a sight on the stock to use in that position. My musings, not a studied assessment


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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1788 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #9 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 5:56pm	Print Post
	I believe back in the day, shotguns were made with long barrels (and very tight full chokes) "to reach out further" Also, muzzle loaders, such as the Pennsylvania rifles and military muskets were made with very long barrels. I could suppose the military muskets long barrels were for a long reach with bayonets attached..... beltfed/arnie


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16884 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #10 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 6:05pm	Print Post
	For long range shooting the rules didn't allow barrels over 34", so that's where all long range rifles stopped at. The biggest advantage was the long sighting radius for increased accuracy at longer distance.

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gnoahhh Oldtimer Offline Posts: 927 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #11 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 7:08pm	Print Post
	If I may kindly submit, longer barrels for more precision not necessarily more accuracy.


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1Hawkeye Full Member Offline Posts: 158 Location: South end of Northern Virginia Joined: Jun 29^th, 2019	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #12 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 7:14pm	Print Post
	Longer barrels do give an advantage with sight radius and a little more velocity but also have the drawback of being a little harder to stabilize when shooting offhand or if your lube runs out in that last four inches.


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Kansas Highwall Participating Member Offline Posts: 21 Joined: Oct 12^th, 2023	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #13 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	Sorry to all! I guess I didn't explain myself well enough on my original post. What I meant was is there an H&R 1871 Buffalo Classic in 45/70 with a 34 inch barrel? I'm aware of 34 inchers on other brands.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11734 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #14 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 8:00pm	Print Post
	gnoahhh wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 7:08pm: If I may kindly submit, longer barrels for more precision not necessarily more accuracy. Will you please exponderate further on that statement?

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gnoahhh Oldtimer Offline Posts: 927 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #15 - Jul 14^th, 2025 at 8:30am	Print Post
	Simple. Longer sight radius equals lower incidence of error when sighting. Precision. A barrel can be accurate no matter its length (and quite a case can be made for short heavy/stiff barrels being supreme, notably for lessened vibrations - all things such as straightness, quality of rifling, optimal loads, etc. being equal) when considering its ability to place its bullets in as small a space as possible. Accuracy. A matter of semantics to a large extent, the common vernacular has clouded the distinction for a looooong time now. "Only accurate rifles are interesting" doesn't speak to the ability of users to precisely aim them.


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Sure shot Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1008 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #16 - Jul 14^th, 2025 at 9:00am	Print Post
	Kansas Highwall wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 7:59pm: Sorry to all! I guess I didn't explain myself well enough on my original post. What I meant was is there an H&R 1871 Buffalo Classic in 45/70 with a 34 inch barrel? I'm aware of 34 inchers on other brands. No,unless it has a custom barrel.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16884 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #17 - Jul 14^th, 2025 at 10:21am	Print Post
	Since we're not talking about brands of barrels, but simply why longer barrels were used, it still comes down to the distance between sights. It's another reason the back position and heel based tang sights were used for long range shooting. It simply made for smaller, more accurate groups. Since group size is based on both accurate barrels, and a great shooter, you can't shoot as accurately with a stubby barrel and iron sights. If it was a scoped rifle, then there's no need for an extremely long barrel.

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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2156 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #18 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 9:01am	Print Post
	Kansas Highwall wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 7:59pm: Sorry to all! I guess I didn't explain myself well enough on my original post. What I meant was is there an H&R 1871 Buffalo Classic in 45/70 with a 34 inch barrel? I'm aware of 34 inchers on other brands. KH, My father was obsessed with this rifle, had one in a 38-55 and one in a 45-70. Both of his had 32" barrels and to my knowledge that was as long a barrel as they came with. He hounded me to consider making new barrels for each in a 34" as I had some experience making Contender barrels, he never could push me over the edge and I have no regrets for not trying. Maybe it was a special order option but we were not aware of it. GT

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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1143 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #19 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 9:23am	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 8:00pm: gnoahhh wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 7:08pm: If I may kindly submit, longer barrels for more precision not necessarily more accuracy. Will you please exponderate further on that statement? Accuracy= 1/2 MOA (or whatever your standard) Precision= Same group in the center or X ring.


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4058 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: long barreled single shot rifle Reply #20 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 12:42pm	Print Post
	Of course, the longer the barrel the smaller the movement on the target for each graduation on the sights.


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