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Remington Hepburn
May 12th, 2025 at 10:46pm
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Would anyone care to pontificate on the pros and cons of the Remington Hepburn action - reliability, ease of tuning for a good trigger pull, etc.? Thanks.
  

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Re: Remington Hepburn
Reply #1 - May 13th, 2025 at 1:22am
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There are pros and cons to any firearm and or action. I personally have grown very fond of them in the last couple years and own three now. They are all Match A guns that have been re barreled with better barrels but are in original calibers. They were purchased this way and that's ok by me. They will all shoot better than I. To me it is the lines and the general appearance of them. Two of mine have single triggers and one set triggers. My two single trigger guns one a 32-40 Rem. Hepburn and one a 40-50 Hepburn both have very good crisp triggers. Little to no creep. I also like the side lever operation and positive ejection of a spent case. If you shoot prone you don't have to lay the gun over to operate the action. Under lever guns such as a Hi Wall or Sharps etc... you do. I was advised when I really got interested in them to get Tom Rowe's book on the Hepburn. It will tell you just about everything you would want to know about them. There are several shooters here that own and collect and shoot Hepburn rifles and they all have high regard for them. I am sure some of them will contribute their opinions as well. 



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Re: Remington Hepburn
Reply #2 - May 13th, 2025 at 10:01am
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I seem to reach for Hepburns when I want to shoot anything other than 22LR. Then I stick with Ballards. i am not a competition shooter, just a casual target shooter at home and hunter. The DST are not quite as good as Ballards. Theyre not quite as natural to hold for me as other pistol grip single shots but they are very accurate and I find the action to be instinctive to operate with positive ejection. 

Biggest drawback for high volume shooting is the hammer pull.  But they’ll make a hell of a thumb wrestler out of you.
  
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Re: Remington Hepburn
Reply #3 - May 13th, 2025 at 10:47am
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If I hadn't started my love affair with Ballard rifles first, I'd have mostly Hepburns now! I have six Hepburns and only two with double set triggers. Single triggers have never needed anything to improve them for me as they're all very nice as is. The set triggers are as good as any I've ever owned, and hold their settings for as long as I've owned and shot them.
Hepburn actions are extremely strong design, and the only con I'd say is if you ever got a case stuck the side lever doesn't have much leverage to extract a stuck case. But in normal situations the side lever works flawlessly and I love it.
  

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Reply #4 - May 13th, 2025 at 11:57am
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One more consideration which may not mean anything as we are all different…

My Hepburn Creedmoor 44-100 with hard rubber buttplate has recoil that will make me see stars.

My Ballard Pacific 45-100 isnt at all bad with straight stock and curved steel buttplate. Slightly heavier gun with slightly less powder but still quite a difference. Go figure.
  
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Reply #5 - May 14th, 2025 at 10:02pm
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Hepburns are great in all aspects except one, recoil with larger cartridges.
  
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Reply #6 - May 14th, 2025 at 10:28pm
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Oh so everyone has a heavy hammer pull? I thought it was just mine lol... Yea it will give your thumb a workout but you will have positive ignition I assure you. 



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Re: Remington Hepburn
Reply #7 - May 15th, 2025 at 8:42am
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There is a lot of drop in the Hepburn stock, which probably aggravates the felt recoil.

All the single trigger Hepburn I’ve fired have very good trigger pulls, unlike the large Rolling Blocks, which all seem to have to be tweaked for lighter pulls.  I only have two standard trigger models (and have fired a couple more), but the guys I shoot with that have Hepburns with double set triggers report that they are not that great at best, and not infrequently out of order at worst.
  
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Re: Remington Hepburn
Reply #8 - May 15th, 2025 at 9:35am
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Many if not most of the single trigger Hepburns have heavy trigger pulls. They can be tweaked to get down to being acceptable.I lightened several by tweaking the sear spring and shimming the main springs. The ones with DST’s that I have/have had were fine, never any issues. I shoot them in BP Silhouette and .22BPCR matches. The only issues with the .22’s is they can be a nuisance to load/unload, because of the high sidewalls in the receiver. But I made a tool that solves the issue of getting the fired cases out.
  
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Reply #9 - May 15th, 2025 at 10:18am
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I have 4 Hepburns and obviously I really like them. Cocking the hammer is not for your average younger or weaker human but as mentioned it gives great ignition. Tom Rowe's book is very helpful and just plain fun to study. My guns range from a light 32-20, a near mint target 40-70SS, a very rare 16lb heavy barrel 45-100 and an early medium heavy barreled 40-70SS that I had Dan Zimmerman rebuild.
  
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Reply #10 - May 15th, 2025 at 11:17am
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Mr. Blacksmith, I have Rolling Blocks and Hepburns, and every one, with exception of the No.2’s, has a heavy mainspring. For some reason that’s the way Remington made them.
  
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Reply #11 - May 15th, 2025 at 2:30pm
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.22Hepburn wrote on May 15th, 2025 at 11:17am:
Mr. Blacksmith, I have Rolling Blocks and Hepburns, and every one, with exception of the No.2’s, has a heavy mainspring. For some reason that’s the way Remington made them.


Maybe I was misunderstood? I'm not making  any kind of derogatory comments about the heavy mainspring in Hepburns or rolling blocks. As you say that's they way they were made.
  
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Reply #12 - May 15th, 2025 at 6:09pm
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I suspect the heavy main spring was an acknowledgement by Remington of the glacial speed of their lock time, and an attempt to speed it up a bit.  In the rolling block, it is also an important safety factor in the action not blowing open.

The trigger on the hepburn can be lightened exactly the same way as the rolling block one, by replacing the leaf spring with a wire spring.  I experimented with it a bit, and posted the results here a few years ago.  The result as I recall is you can reliably get a 3 to 4 lb trigger on a hepburn, without changing the sear angle to an unsafe configuration, simply by polishing rub surfaces and replacing the spring.  The spring isn't the magic that it is in the rolling block, where it reduces 20 pounds to 3.  It drops from about 6 to 3 1/2 in the Hepburn.  With no spring, the hepburn trigger still has about 3 lbs to it.

There aren't enough Hepburns out there to make it worthwhile for me to commercially produce the spring for sale, so I did the rifles I had on hand, and left it there.
  
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Re: Remington Hepburn
Reply #13 - May 20th, 2025 at 11:32am
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I own a number of Rolling Blocks, and Hepburns, and most don't have the heavy mainsprings once I work the mainsprings over. But a few like my Match B and Match A Hepburns had nice mainsprings when I got them. Most of my Rolling Blocks (minus one Cadet 1 1/2) are Sporting Rifles, and had nice hammer feel and not too heavy. Dave told me about the trigger return springs many years ago, and I bought a pound of piano wire then, and have used it to lighten triggers ever since.
  

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Re: Remington Hepburn
Reply #14 - May 21st, 2025 at 11:53pm
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My 40-70SS Hepburn is my favorite rifle to shoot off of the bench as that side lever allows the rifle to stay in the rest with little disturbance.  When I get tired of the recoil of heavy loads I revert back to a light charge of 4227 and a breech seated bullet from 330 to 400 grains.  The rifle will shoot as good as I can see.  The mainspring was developed from a leaf spring off of a Model T Ford and the primer really gets a wallop!  I use CCI 34 Primers as they were designed to prevent slam fires in simi-auto rifles and are pretty tough.  For hunting, I am not afraid to kick up the velocity using smokeless powder as the action is quite strong.  Recoil is the limiting factor for where I quit increasing the charge.  Tom
  
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