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Re: Hepburn conversion
Reply #15 - Mar 21st, 2025 at 11:15am
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It is Mark Chanlynn, Rocky Mt. Rifle works. (303) 823-6270
  

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Re: Hepburn conversion
Reply #16 - Mar 21st, 2025 at 8:14pm
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How would you obtain a RKS barrel? No I haven't chosen a reamer as yet. I have a Clymer "match" reamer that has served me well in past barrels. 





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Re: Hepburn conversion
Reply #17 - Mar 21st, 2025 at 8:35pm
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jhm wrote on Mar 21st, 2025 at 8:14pm:
How would you obtain a RKS barrel? No I haven't chosen a reamer as yet. I have a Clymer "match" reamer that has served me well in past barrels. 




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In the General Discussion section, at the very top is a post entitled “RKS barrels”. That’s probably the best place to start.
  

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Re: Hepburn conversion
Reply #18 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 7:39pm
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And it was as easy as a phone call... Called and ordered a RKS blank today. I have never paid so much for a blank barrel (still can't believe I did it). Price was a staggering 500.00. That sucker better drive tacks and small ones at that.



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Re: Hepburn conversion
Reply #19 - Apr 2nd, 2025 at 10:09am
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If it shoots better than a Benchmark or Lilja barrel, the price isn't too important in the big picture.  Shoot a few 5 shot groups at 100 that measure .2 to .3 inches, and you'll never think about how much you paid for that barrel.  I hope it lives up to the reputation that RKS has with the users here!

The flip side of that is an example of one of my own rifles.  I sent two .22 rf Green Mountain barrels off to a well known gunsmith to fit to a switch barrel rifle, for an offhand and bench barrel setup.  I ordered a specific reamer for Ely match ammo from Dave Kiff at PTG to be sent to that gunsmith.  He fit the barrels to the rifle, and chambered with the PTG reamer.  When I got them back, I looked down the barrels and the throat on both was ridged and scratched.  I looked at the reamer (that had been returned to me) and found that PTG had sent the wrong reamer, with some goofy pilot with a spiral groove down it.  It was a production reamer for a forced oil system, rather than the reamer I had ordered.  I called PTG and they said tough luck, it's up to you to inspect and make sure what you ordered is what you get.  They rightly pointed out that the gunsmith should have realized that it was the wrong reamer before using it. They wouldn't even exchange the reamer, since it had been used. That was the third reamer that they had sent the wrong one to me, so they have never supplied me with any tooling since.  That rifle has essentially never been used, I shot a few groups with it and it was a mediocre performer so it has just sat. I never even blued the barrels. That was money wasted and I still get irritated when I think of it.  If I had paid the money I did for the two barrels and fitting on putting one high quality barrel in it that shot in the .2's or .3's, I'd still be happy with that rifle today and never think about what it had cost.

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Re: Hepburn conversion
Reply #20 - Apr 2nd, 2025 at 8:17pm
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I looked at some other high end blanks and they were all in the 450.00 range so like you said you have to pay to play. Postage from Canada was a lot of the price too. It is like an old friend would to say to me when I was still working and he was retired. It is just money go make you some more. Well I am the retired one now so I can't "just go make you some more" so I have to pick my battles now. The RKS barrels have a very good reputation for accuracy so I will just have to wait and see. It is an unturned blank to finish at 28 inches with a one in 16 twist 6 groove bore. The wait for arrival begins...



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Re: Hepburn conversion
Reply #21 - Apr 6th, 2025 at 1:29pm
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Update on the conversion. Got the r/f breech block machined and fitted. Removed the c/f 219 Zipper barrel and machined a stub to practice the two piece extractor. All the pictures and information are greatly appreciated. Just have to wait on the RKS barrel to come from Canada. Haven't decided on barrel configuration yet. It will probably be half oct/round. I have gotten pretty good at doing those. Made some tooling to hold them with. One question I forgot to ask and it is directed to "GT" and it is how wide is the transfer bar and what diameter is the pin that attaches it to the block? Thanks again for everyone's continued help.


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Re: Hepburn conversion
Reply #22 - Apr 9th, 2025 at 10:02pm
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Got the slot machined for the transfer bar and got a bar fitted. Made a firing pin and checked location on an empty case via a mock up barrel. Location is good and strike is strong enough to "bust a cap" as they say. Made my bar .187 thick to try and avoid bending during use. Made it out of mild steel for now to check function. Will remake out of a better material later. The check I sent for my barrel is located in a distribution center in NY. Who knows how long it will take to get my barrel...



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Reply #23 - Apr 22nd, 2025 at 3:12am
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Update... Money was delivered according to tracking number so now waiting on barrel. Original barrel dims. were provided by another member. It will be half octagon/round and 30 inches in length if blank length allows.



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Reply #24 - May 10th, 2025 at 10:20pm
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Latest on my conversion. Since I started this conversion I have had Tom Rowe's Hepburn book on order. Well it came today and when I got to page 53 there was my new inspiration. It is a match grade B in 22 LR with a #4 weight 28 inch barrel. What was a Walker inspired rifle has now become a match B. I found from a member here an original stock and forearm that has the same checkering as the one on page 53 of this glorious book. I couldn't build a true Walker as I cannot duplicate the lever etc but I can build a grade B so if and when I finally get my RKS barrel from Canada. Meanwhile I am working on a palm rest from pictures. The gent known as ssrifles has been a great help as well as others through comments here and to all I thank you. Was told to get the book and now I know why. Some of the best money I have spent in a long while...


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Reply #25 - May 11th, 2025 at 7:13am
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Johnny, sounds like it is coming along. Tony and Tom have always been generous with their help when I needed it or had a question. Please post some photos if you can.
  
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Re: Hepburn conversion
Reply #26 - May 11th, 2025 at 7:55am
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I never have been able to post pictures so if I can send some via my phone to someone who can I will. I am not the most computer savvy person. Tom Rowe's book is absolutely amazing the amount of information , history , and pictures he had to accumulate. I have Sellers book on Sharps also and both are essential when you are interested in the history of these guns. My next purchase I hope to find is an all original untouched Hepburn. All three of mine are original actions but have been rebarreled restocked etc. I fully intend to have one before I'm done.



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Reply #27 - May 14th, 2025 at 10:06pm
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Photos of Johnny’s Hepburn progress.
  
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Reply #28 - May 14th, 2025 at 10:45pm
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A little explanation of the pictures and thanks rifleman for the help. First one is the transfer bar type breech block (I borrowed the idea from KT) at battery in the action. Second picture is just a side view. This is the action I removed the blueing from with vinegar. Worked pretty good. Third one is the pivot piece for a palm rest shown in the Hepburn book. I have some original wood I purchased from a gent here that has the same checkering as the one in the Hepburn book on page 53. I am still waiting on my RKS barrel blank so I can finish it. ssrifles was kind enough to measure one of his Walker models and gave me barrel dims. for my build. Getting a lot of help from folks here that I really appreciate. Hope I can do them justice when I finish it.



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Re: Hepburn conversion
Reply #29 - May 14th, 2025 at 10:49pm
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Oops pictures are 2,1,3 in that order. Long day...



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