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KensBullard Participating Member Offline Posts: 26 Location: Woodland Wa Joined: Dec 17^th, 2024	Pope Barrel on Ebay ??? Mar 11^th, 2025 at 12:17am	Print Post
	I ran into this on Ebay Never seen a Pope stamp like this I would say it's an out and out fake I may be wrong. but I think Pope had his own stamp that was one piece nice and strate. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 4112 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: Pope Barrel on Ebay ??? Reply #1 - Mar 11^th, 2025 at 9:44am	Print Post
	Looks kinda sketchy to me, but what do I know? Fortunately, it’s not something I would be buying anyway. Froggie


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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1130 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: Pope Barrel on Ebay ??? Reply #2 - Mar 11^th, 2025 at 10:13am	Print Post
	It’s on its second or third go around on gun broker. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16732 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Pope Barrel on Ebay ??? Reply #3 - Mar 11^th, 2025 at 12:54pm	Print Post
	One of the worst fakes I've ever seen! He's mistaking "rare" for modified work. Besides being rethreaded for a Ballard, and rebored, it appears the rifling fades away to none at the muzzle end. And it's neither Pope rifling style, nor is it left hand twist. If it was free I'd not want it myself.

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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1130 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: Pope Barrel on Ebay ??? Reply #4 - Mar 11^th, 2025 at 1:46pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Mar 11^th, 2025 at 12:54pm: One of the worst fakes I've ever seen! He's mistaking "rare" for modified work. Besides being rethreaded for a Ballard, and rebored, it appears the rifling fades away to none at the muzzle end. And it's neither Pope rifling style, nor is it left hand twist. If it was free I'd not want it myself. But but but, it’s got the super rare “ X” marks at the end of the roll marks that a serious Stevens collector has never seen before!


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16732 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Pope Barrel on Ebay ??? Reply #5 - Mar 11^th, 2025 at 1:48pm	Print Post
	Dellet wrote on Mar 11^th, 2025 at 1:46pm: marlinguy wrote on Mar 11^th, 2025 at 12:54pm: One of the worst fakes I've ever seen! He's mistaking "rare" for modified work. Besides being rethreaded for a Ballard, and rebored, it appears the rifling fades away to none at the muzzle end. And it's neither Pope rifling style, nor is it left hand twist. If it was free I'd not want it myself. But but but, it’s got the super rare “ X” marks at the end of the roll marks that a serious Stevens collector has never seen before! Guess the "serious Stevens collector" didn't want it either when this guy showed him? Maybe it was the $700 price tag?

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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1130 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: Pope Barrel on Ebay ??? Reply #6 - Mar 11^th, 2025 at 2:10pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Mar 11^th, 2025 at 1:48pm: Dellet wrote on Mar 11^th, 2025 at 1:46pm: marlinguy wrote on Mar 11^th, 2025 at 12:54pm: One of the worst fakes I've ever seen! He's mistaking "rare" for modified work. Besides being rethreaded for a Ballard, and rebored, it appears the rifling fades away to none at the muzzle end. And it's neither Pope rifling style, nor is it left hand twist. If it was free I'd not want it myself. But but but, it’s got the super rare “ X” marks at the end of the roll marks that a serious Stevens collector has never seen before! Guess the "serious Stevens collector" didn't want it either when this guy showed him? Maybe it was the $700 price tag? $600 on GB but I think it has a reserve. With where and how it’s stamped, I wouldn’t be surprised if the 32-40 wasn’t an earlier re bore. A lot can happen with these old rifles that have been around since 1794.


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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1678 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Pope Barrel on Ebay ??? Reply #7 - Mar 11^th, 2025 at 8:22pm	Print Post
	What is the phrase "buyer beware"? I am certainly not an expert on Pope's barrels but I think I would shy away from this one. JMH


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ssdave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1924 Location: Eastern Oregon Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Pope Barrel on Ebay ??? Reply #8 - Mar 11^th, 2025 at 9:55pm	Print Post
	This is how a stevens pope should be marked:


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16732 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Pope Barrel on Ebay ??? Reply #9 - Mar 12^th, 2025 at 10:39am	Print Post
	Pope did rebore and rifle many barrels, so it is possible to find a non Stevens-Pope barrel that would have his typical HM POPE stamp instead. He did barrels from almost every maker's guns if customers wanted an existing barrel rebored to a larger caliber by him. He also bought numerous barrels new from Winchester that were smooth bored so he could bore and rifle them to whatever caliber the customer wanted. But as mentioned previously, Pope had great stamps, and his markings were very legible and neatly done. He did make some barrels without his name stamped on them, but have his left hand twist, and proper markings under the forearm for twist rate, etc.

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