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The 'Not Quite"
Mar 1st, 2025 at 8:18pm
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I like to name my rifles, especially high walls and this one currently is the ''Not Quite"  
I finally installed the 40-65 barrel that came with the Gun Broker action.  No real problems except the forend screw location was 'not quite' close enough so there is a slight gap between the forend and the action.  The wood does 'not quite' match. The firing pin strike is 'not quite' high enough although it fired just fine. The front sight dovetail adapter was 'not quite' flush with the barrel and finally, the Marbles tang sight is 'not quite' clicking into a positive vertical position.  I know how to handle the forend and pin strike (needs longer link) but will have to research the tang sight.
Oh, also there is 'not quite' a finish on the metal.  
  

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Reply #1 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 10:29pm
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A new MVA Soule and Winchester globe sight will round the rifle out nicely. Nice looking "not quite" traditional 1885 Jack. Get the sights, Jack. Go all the way!
  

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Reply #2 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 11:00pm
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That would assume that I can use iron sights effectively like I did years ago. I have an eye Dr appointment on Monday and will ask about my annoying artifacts when looking through a small aperture.  I will try it out as is or probably with my mid range Heilman sight.  I probably will not keep it as a 40-65 though. I have a nice one already. I need to do some measurements of the flat spring and forend screw locations. If both are 1/16” too far out I need to check headspace. The flat spring hanger I used has the hole slightly forward so maybe the barrel needs to be screwed in 1 turn. That might require a reamer.  The investigation begins after breakfast tomorrow.
  

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Reply #3 - Mar 2nd, 2025 at 12:36am
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I assumed from the picture, no scope blocks but iron sights installed. 

Yes, get your eyes fixed. Had my right eye done last spring. Can see iron sights very well now. Hiking is a problem. Hiking in the Arco desert this summer it took search and rescue teams two days to find me. Tracked me in a 22 mile diameter counterclockwise circle ending near Big South Butte. Can go back to hiking when I get my left eye done. If I had it to do over again I'd get the second eye done three weeks after the first. Live and learn.
  

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Reply #4 - Mar 2nd, 2025 at 11:43am
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You forgot the buttstock is not quite checkered to match the forearm. Smiley
  

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Reply #5 - Mar 2nd, 2025 at 1:11pm
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That checkered forearm has adorned several of my rifles and never matched the buttstock. It originally came on what had been my go to 32-40 match rifle.  I replaced it with a nice used one. I think it is a modern made forearm with a ‘plastic’ look to it. I had a couple of others but this one fit better.  Long term this action will get a different barrel and the 40-65 one will be sold.  I might even cut a new forend dovetail with the screw location correct for this barrel just to make the sale easier.  As is the headspace is about .006 so I don’t think setting it back a turn is worth it. The off-center flat spring hanger has a screw location about .016” closer than the recommended 3 1/16” but functions flawlessly.
  

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Reply #6 - Mar 2nd, 2025 at 4:34pm
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" I think it is a modern made forearm with a ‘plastic’ look to it. "

Interesting, so what finish is on it? What is it made of? I'd like to see a close up of the finish and checkering.
  

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Reply #7 - Mar 2nd, 2025 at 4:46pm
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It is a plain Jane wood ans looks good but does not look antique.  It has a bit of a ding.
  

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Reply #8 - Mar 2nd, 2025 at 6:47pm
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The 'Not Quite' is ready to rock and roll.  The forend gap is more like 1/32" and is acceptable.  Some recommend such a gap to prevent any forend/receiver accuracy interference. The pin strike is OK as is IMHO. The flat spring dovetail is in the correct place and the one hanger I put in which moved the screw location in about 1/16" works fine with the flat spring that came with it.  I had to drill out the top tang screw hole which looks to have been welded and a standard (no sight) screw head would not fit.  The is still a gouge on one edge. The head space is about .006 without a case.  I also made a temporary wood insert for the sling swivel cut out so it can be fired off a bag.   
I will see how it shoots as a 40-65 but in the long term oit will most likely be rebarrelled.
  

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Reply #9 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 1:49am
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Is that the rifle you'll be using for our BBQ match at Tommy's? Currently untried, like my rifle?  Huh If so that will level the playing field considerably.

Headspace without a case?  Undecided
  

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Reply #10 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 11:52am
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Still thinking about the headspace without a case?   Smiley
  

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Reply #11 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 2:06pm
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Whenever I find a forearm for an old single shot with a tiny gap to the receiver I tell anyone who points it out that it's to help accuracy! Wink Guys tend to nitpick little things like that, so it quiets the comments.
  

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Reply #12 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 5:59pm
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OK Joe, how about barrel to block clearance. It is important of to close with a case that sticks out.  In this rifle case both are fine.
  

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Reply #13 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 6:04pm
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Is that the rifle you'll be using for our BBQ match at Tommy's? Currently untried, like my rifle?  Huh If so that will level the playing field considerably.


You would like that wouldn't you.  No scope bases and my eyes not good anymore for iron sights.  Nope not that rifle.  I am going to use my bench scope rifle, whichever I bring. Got to keep it fair!

The eye doc says no cataract surgery and maybe the new prescription might help. 

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Reply #14 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 8:11pm
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Gee whiz, Jack, give a dog a bone.......    Cry
  

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