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Feb 18th, 2025 at 8:10pm
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NO SIR.  This one is just to keep the others company.   

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First sign of addiction is denial……..
  

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What to do with this latest action is going to take some head scratching.  Even if the 40-65 barrel that is coming with it has a good bore, I have a very nice CCDST action with a new barrel on it that I am shooting.  The 28 G&H barrel still did not shoot well today so that is out.  I need to buy a new barrel or two I guess.  What caliber is the question.
Including low walls, I have:

.22rf - 2
22 Hornet
25 WCF
25 Hornet
28 G&H (a custom Wes Turner design)
30-40
32-20
32-40 - 3 complete, 1 extra relined barrel with a bad chamber
32 Miller Short
33-47
32 RKS - when I gets back fro the smith
38-55
40-65
45-90

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Reply #4 - Feb 18th, 2025 at 11:19pm
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If that barrel has a bore problem but indexes up to your rifle, send it to JES and have it opened up to 45-70.  A pretty inexpensive way to fill your missing number
  

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I am done with over 40 cal, maybe something in 35 caliber.
  

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.357 Maximum maybe?
  
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38-50 Hepburn would be my choice
  
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who in this world has a complete set of these that lacks a .30-30?
  
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I have a 30-30 but it is a pre-64 model 94.  Making one from a high wall is a thought though
  

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Don't think I have a complete set of anything.  Cry
  

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I thought I had a complete set of playing cards but everyone says I am not playing with a full deck.
  

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35/30 Maynard
  
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The description sounds like the barrel in this kit has a great bore at "9 out of 10" described. I'd probably leave it at a .40-65 as I think that's a great cartridge and have 4 or 5 of them now.
  

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I will be thrilled if the barrel is in great condition. I have been happy with my latest parts built 40-65 my first in that caliber. I had purchased the barrel on eBay a couple of years back and it was threaded for a high wall with no dovetails for flat spring or forearm. I finally decided to put it on the coil spring action I bought at auction that came with a 30-40 Krag barrel that did have proper dovetails.  The eBay barrel must have never been used as the shank was 1/8+” too long. After cutting to proper length and 5 minutes with a borrowed reamer, it is shooting great.  I will know in a couple of weeks.
  

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gnoahhh wrote on Feb 19th, 2025 at 9:29am:
.357 Maximum maybe?

This would be my choice.
  
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So Babydriver, are you suggesting 43 Egyptian?  

I like the 357 Max idea.  That would give me 3 rifles based on that case.  My 30 Wesson Ballard is fun to shot and accurate.  I am having a 32 RKS made soon.  I had better stock up on brass.  I have some but will need more eventually.
  

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Reply #18 - Feb 19th, 2025 at 2:10pm
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I don't think there is any such thing as a Complete Set 1885s

I accept that I have an addiction for 1885s

22 LR High Wall Winder 
22 WMR bore and line in 25 RF Low Wall Take Down
22 Hornet Low Wall single set trigger 
25 RF Low Wall mint and original and made reloadable ammo for it
25-20 Low Wall
30-40 US High Wall
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50 Eley aka 500 3" High Wall. Totally original and 9/10 bore

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I can also recommend the 30-30.  I have a highwall in 30-30 ( not original, but you have to look closely to tell ). It's an excellent cartridge for a single shot.  With a #3 half octagon barrel, the extra weight makes it a fair bit more pleasant to shoot than a '94.

I could probably be happy with highwalls in just 32-40, 38-55 & 30-30. 

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Remember Chris,
Two's company and three's a crowd, but 17 is a PARTY!
  

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bpjack wrote on Feb 19th, 2025 at 4:23pm:
Remember Chris,
Two's company and three's a crowd, but 17 is a PARTY!


Well I didn't mean only one of each Smiley.  I just meant many, but in those 3 cartridges  Cheesy Cheesy.

Oh and I also like the 38-50 idea someone mentioned too.   And maybe I'd add a 33/40 or 33/47. 

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Somehow counting your 1885s seems to me sort of similar to counting your money at the poker table. I have some. Will likely acquire some more. Have a complete set? Very unlikely. Not ruling that out completely though.
  
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[quote author=71474A5279674A4A4348260 link=1739927416/1#1 date=1739927732]First sign of addiction is denial……..

this was the first thing that popped into my mind. Smiley
  
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I have been looking at Winchester single shot rifles for about forty years, maybe more. I doubt that I've actually SEEN an example of every cartridge they built. Gotta keep looking- show this weekend, even if a single example is doubtful around here.
  
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You ill, Jack?  Only explanation I can find for you letting me have a high wall I bid on today!
  
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What? Did I miss one?  Where was I? 
Now I am sick!
  

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You got that 32-40 that Joe sold on Gun Broker?  That went for a great price.  I had it bookmarked but forgot to check on it today.  Glad you got it though.  It looks to need a slight bit of TLC but at that price it was a steal.
Have you noticed a weakness in high wall prices lately?   
Even Gussenhoven bought a high wall.

I am going to slow down especially at auctions so you may have some other bargains in the future.  I am going to save up so I can have a stash to take to the Oregon Arms show in August.
  

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Seeing the price it sold for reminded me of a nice SST 219 Zipper I bought back in 2017 on Gun Broker.  The starting price was $799 and there were no bids the Saturday morning on its final day.  I awoke with what I thought was a bad crick in my shoulder blade but as the day progressed it got worse and by about 2 pm I was in urgent care and they said I had a pulmonary embolism and I should drive across the street to the hospital emergency room.  I had bid the $5 minimum that morning but with all the medical issues I had totally forgotten about it.  As I was walking into the hospital my phone chimed and to my surprise, I had won the auction. I had to notify the seller that it would be a few days before I could send a check.
  

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The HW Gussenhoven got wasn't cheap. It was nice and it was what he had been looking for for a long time. Told me he can't wait to shoot it.
  

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He only buys nice rifles.  I only buy cheap ones.  I like trying to make cheap stuff work well.  He likes to shoot matches.  I like to add lead to the local gun range berm.
  

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The description sounds like the barrel in this kit has a great bore at "9 out of 10" described. I'd probably leave it at a .40-65 as I think that's a great cartridge and have 4 or 5 of them now.


I got the rifle today.  The outside of the barrel is in good shape with no finish left.  The bore is at least a 9+.
I initially figured the bore would be rough, but I am now very happy.  The musket buttstock is in great shape as well.  The action had no finish except for the lever.  I will take it apart later to see the innards but it functions well with a nice trigger pull.  All in all a great buy in my not so humble opinion.

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Well, after disassembly, I now say a slightly less great buy.  The block and firing pin are the old large BP style.
  

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bpjack wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 11:02pm:
Well, after disassembly, I now say a slightly less great buy.  The block and firing pin are the old large BP style. 


My 1885 40-65 has the old style large firing pin. Works perfect with BP and smokeless. Reduced smokeless loads. 

You planning on building a high pressure rifle?
  

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I have always thought that a 50 BMG high wall would be a really stupid idea but of course I would only shoot reduced cast bullets loads.  I do have a large firing pin in my 33-20 low wall.  Maybe I will put the 28 G&H barrel on this action for now.
  

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I meant high pressure not big pressure. I know you have a 30-40 Krag barrel for a high wall.

Here's one I'm working on Jack. Got the action with stock from Joe D. Tony Heits provided the forestock. Got the Darr barrel from a shooter at Missoula about ten or fifteen years ago. Had all but a couple parts to put a complete rifle together. I'm liking this plain old deluxe Winchester parts gun. When the weather warms up I'll blue the barrel. 7 groove RH twist at 18 inches. Breech block was bushed with a small firing pin. 

Posting it for you cause I know you like 1885s and you thrive on guidance. Bring your best 1885 to Tommy's this year and we'll battle it out in a BR match for money. 

Sticking my neck out here since I've only test fired it out the Jeep window.
  

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So I have to get a Jeep to bring to Spokane so we can have an out~of~the~window shoot off?  I always bring a high wall to Spokane.  Looser buys the BBQ.
  

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I'm game. Bring a Jeep and we'll shoot out the windows in front of the firing line up to the butts at 200 yards. Or the more conventional way, from benches. Either way, you're on!  Smiley
  

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How about from a bench THROUGH your Jeep window.   
I was playing with the Paul Shuttleworth 32-40 yesterday and when I changed seating depth I got a 200 yd 5 shot 1” group.  I will be putting that rifle against my old 32-40 that has won a few times.
  

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I just got back from the gym. I need a nap first. 

I read a quote on FB the other day:

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I never thought that I would be the guy who got up early and went to the gym

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I'm up at 4:30, coffee at 5:30 with the guys, back home at 7:00 where I take my pills, a tuna sandwich and a gin and tonic, Buddy gets his morning rub down and then I take my nap. Gym? I don't have time for gym....

  

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Here is the rifle.  Paul's name is engraved on the top barrel flat between the scope blocks.  This came from Andy Zornacky's estate and was chambered in a 32 bottleneck case based on a 357 Max.  Richard Zorin recommended rechambering to 32-40 since they could never get that wildcat to shoot well.
  

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This is another one of Andy's rifles, he had quite a collection! I break-up my Winchester fetish with an occasional Ballard
  
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Nicer than mine Bob.  I think most bidders were leery of the one I got.  The forend was taped on with blue tape and the barrel was marked .32 2.6.  Another member here got me in touch with Richard and he said that he and his brother were experimenting with short cases about 28 years ago.  Richard did a .38 and Andy did the 357 Max case with a 32 cal bottleneck.  It has a Douglas XX 12 Twist .3191 groove 12.1.96  It is just over 28 years old.  It has 6 wide grooves.  Maybe 2.5 times wider than the lands.  It doesn't like non tapered bullets.
  

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Here is the action I got from Gun Broker.  It has an 8" barrel stub and came with a nice musket stock and marbles tang sight.  I replaced the block with one I had with the horizontal pin holding the firing pin in.  I may just sell this fat pin one just because.  I could bush it but.....
  

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Re: NO WAY Do I have a high wall addiction
Reply #46 - Feb 28th, 2025 at 3:24pm
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Your rifle sounds very promising, 30 years ago there were a bunch of machinists/shooters who were experimenting with wildcat cartridges using 357 Maximum. These were made for specific loads and were used with a wad. You might want to talk to some of the folks who shoot 32 Miller Short or similar calibers.
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Re: NO WAY Do I have a high wall addiction
Reply #47 - Feb 28th, 2025 at 6:14pm
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You guys are killing me with all the high wall pictures. I'm going to have to get another one. Missed on a 40-82 a couple of years ago at the Tulsa show. It's still bothering me.  Grin
  
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Re: NO WAY Do I have a high wall addiction
Reply #48 - Feb 28th, 2025 at 7:56pm
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Bob,
I have a 32 Miller short with a short barrel.  I got it from Bob Zimmerman's estate.  Westerner said Bob and the previous owner could not get it to be competitive.  I have not really put a ton on lead through it yet though.
  

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