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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16589 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Returning to an old project. 40-90 Ballard Reply #15 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 8:42pm	Print Post
	I would think a 16" twist would be ideal! That's what I've used on all my .40 caliber builds from .40-70SS, .40-65 Win., and .40-85 Ballard. They handle bullets from 330 gr. to 410 gr. nicely and do well out to 1000 yds.

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idjeffp Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 335 Location: Boise, ID Joined: Nov 11^th, 2017	Re: Returning to an old project. 40-90 Ballard Reply #16 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 9:19pm	Print Post
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DoubleD Oldtimer Offline Posts: 662 Location: Edmond Joined: Feb 14^th, 2006	Re: Returning to an old project. 40-90 Ballard Reply #17 - Mar 6^th, 2025 at 9:35am	Print Post
	Thanks for the PM Jeff, I responded. Marlinguy thanks. One reference I found said 1 in 20 twist. Think about that if this gun I have is 1-20 twist, perhaps that is why I got key hole's. The bullets i was shooting were long and heavy. Maybe i needed short and light.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16589 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Returning to an old project. 40-90 Ballard Reply #18 - Mar 6^th, 2025 at 11:01am	Print Post
	DoubleD wrote on Mar 6^th, 2025 at 9:35am: Thanks for the PM Jeff, I responded. Marlinguy thanks. One reference I found said 1 in 20 twist. Think about that if this gun I have is 1-20 twist, perhaps that is why I got key hole's. The bullets i was shooting were long and heavy. Maybe i needed short and light. Original Ballard barrels in .40 caliber were 1:20" twist regardless of which .40 they were. My Pacific in .40-85 is and shoots extremely well with the heavier 410 gr. Snover bullet. I load them using 4198 and they are around 1350 fps. It shoots my lighter 330 gr. and 370 gr. bullets well also, but my bore is a like new original bore.

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DoubleD Oldtimer Offline Posts: 662 Location: Edmond Joined: Feb 14^th, 2006	Re: Returning to an old project. 40-90 Ballard Reply #19 - Mar 9^th, 2025 at 8:48am	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Mar 6^th, 2025 at 11:01am: DoubleD wrote on Mar 6^th, 2025 at 9:35am: Thanks for the PM Jeff, I responded. Marlinguy thanks. One reference I found said 1 in 20 twist. Think about that if this gun I have is 1-20 twist, perhaps that is why I got key hole's. The bullets i was shooting were long and heavy. Maybe i needed short and light. Original Ballard barrels in .40 caliber were 1:20" twist regardless of which .40 they were. My Pacific in .40-85 is and shoots extremely well with the heavier 410 gr. Snover bullet. I load them using 4198 and they are around 1350 fps. It shoots my lighter 330 gr. and 370 gr. bullets well also, but my bore is a like new original bore. Where to find a 20 twist, 40 cal liner. Not on TJ's list. is there another source?

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DoubleD Oldtimer Offline Posts: 662 Location: Edmond Joined: Feb 14^th, 2006	Re: Returning to an old project. 40-90 Ballard Reply #20 - Mar 12^th, 2025 at 8:38am	Print Post
	One more try. Does anyone know where i can get .40 cal 1 in20 twist barrel liner?

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1641 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Returning to an old project. 40-90 Ballard Reply #21 - Mar 12^th, 2025 at 10:44am	Print Post
	Not sure you will find one. But, for what it’s worth, I’m fitting a new barrel to the action I am building for a 40-70 straight chamber in 16. Also installing a liner, for the same chamber, in an original Ballard with a 16. I think it was in my Hepburn build this was discussed by several people and thats why I settled on 16. It sounded like 16 would handle most bullets. Bob

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16589 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Returning to an old project. 40-90 Ballard Reply #22 - Mar 12^th, 2025 at 10:54am	Print Post
	DoubleD wrote on Mar 12^th, 2025 at 8:38am: One more try. Does anyone know where i can get .40 cal 1 in20 twist barrel liner? 1:20" twist is what they used originally, but as Bob mentioned a 1:16" twist is much better for almost any weight bullet you'd want to shoot.

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ssdave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1882 Location: Eastern Oregon Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Returning to an old project. 40-90 Ballard Reply #23 - Mar 12^th, 2025 at 12:31pm	Print Post
	Years ago, I had John Taylor line a .40-70 barrel for me. I just ordered a 5/8" diameter barrel from Pac-Nor, and John reamed the barrel and installed that liner.


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DoubleD Oldtimer Offline Posts: 662 Location: Edmond Joined: Feb 14^th, 2006	Re: Returning to an old project. 40-90 Ballard Reply #24 - yesterday at 10:18am	Print Post
	Pac Nor. Of Course. Since I am restoring Marlin Ballard no. 5 PACIFIC using a JGS made in Coos Bay, Oregon on the PACIFIC coast. It would only be keeping with the theme to have a barrel liner made by Pac-Nor in Brookings, OR on the PACIFIC coast. A very long time ago-about 40 years ago, I would have coffee in Orford's cafe, in Port Orford, OR with the Chip truck drivers carrying loads from Brookings to Coos Bay. Chris Dichter was one of those drivers. I was a Deputy Sheriff back in those days. Those Truckers where my extended eyes. They would keep me advised of road conditions and traffic conditions from Gold Beach to north to the Curry county line. If you have ever Traveled US101 down the Southern Oregon coast in the winter, you understand how important communicating with these truckers was. Oh my, a simple request for a barrel liner has resulted in a trip nostalgia lane...I claim the privilege via old age. .

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