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Jan 28th, 2025 at 12:29pm
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Hello, I've been lurking around here for some time and decided to join the forum a while back. I shoot BPCR at Harris, MN and I believe I recognize a few people on  here. I shoot a Miroku/Winchester BPCR and a Shiloh Sharps. Both in 45-70.
I have seen a post in the not too distant past about stop-ring bullets. What are they and why would a person need or use them?
 
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Reply #1 - Jan 28th, 2025 at 12:53pm
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Stop ring bullets were popular with Schuetzen shooters in Europe back when it was a popular shooting game 1890-1910 (rough time span). Many of those shooters loaded their own ammunition. The ring on the bullet body (see image below) "stopped" the bullet from dropping into the cartridge case. That's way over simplified but gives you an idea of how/why they were used. A few shooters today still use stop ring bullets to shoot their original European Schuetzen rifles.
  

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Reply #2 - Jan 28th, 2025 at 2:06pm
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Thank you for the information.  Wouldn't that ring promote leading in the barrel?
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 28th, 2025 at 3:04pm
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Kirker wrote on Jan 28th, 2025 at 2:06pm:
Thank you for the information.  Wouldn't that ring promote leading in the barrel?


Why would you think that?
  

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Reply #4 - Jan 28th, 2025 at 4:27pm
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Not really no more than the body of the bullet itself. I shoot a German stalking rifle in 8.15 x 46R using that bullet. I cast 20 to 1 with a muzzle velocity of about 1180fps and have never had a leading problem. The wrong lead mix and excessive velocity will get you leading.



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Reply #5 - Jan 28th, 2025 at 5:04pm
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The ring not only stops the bullet from entering the case deeper, but also seals the bore to stop expanding gases from passing and leading the bore. So the design doesn't cause leading, it stops it also.
Another advantage of a stop ring bullet is to allow fixed ammo to be used in rifles with larger than normal groove size. So for instance a .32-40 with a large groove of say .327" wont allow a fixed bullet to be seated and still chamber in a .32-40 chamber, but using a stop ring bullet with a band of .327" or slightly larger and lower bands of around .323" will seal the bore, yet still chamber fine.
  

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Reply #6 - Jan 28th, 2025 at 5:06pm
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I wonder why we don't see more use of a shell indenter. If the only purpose of a stop ring bullet is to control bullet seating. he indenter could be used for the same purpose
  

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